Worst ship design in sci-fi?

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:15 pm

isn't that the point in 40k, to elucidate the darker leafs in mans' spiritual tomes?

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:16 pm

Interestingly enough, the Emperor (when still alive enough to care) was also very much opposed to the institution of His worship. But, as they say, we create G-d, not the other way around.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:18 pm

Well that makes it better. At least he doesn't think himself as a god. I can accept that he is a capable man with a tremendous zeal and a fantastic mental capability. But a god? I think not.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:30 pm

The Horus Heresey series shows that humanity was actualy highly atheist when the Emperor was alive. In the first book, one of the characters even goes into a detailed argument as to why religion is detrimental to the Imperium, and worshiping the Emperor as a god was strictly forbidden. He never claimed he was a god, just that he was ruler of humanity. He was also quite open to advances in science and technology, and even struck bargains with alien races.
All in all, what he wanted for mankind was the exact opposite to what the 'modern' Imperium turned out to be.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:32 pm

So the ministers left in his place to rule the Imperium have twisted it into their own tool? I feel sorry for the Emperor. If he wakes up, he'll return to a world completely different to his old one!

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:34 pm

welcome to my hangover on monday

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:39 pm

Given that it was over the course of many millenia, yeah pretty much. The government of the modern Imperium is rife with corruption, with none of them giving a damn (or even knowing) about what the Emperor really wanted.
Given that the Emperor is supposed to be fully concious (just unable to move), I think it's just a matter of time before he unleashes a holy bitchslap on the High Lords.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:40 pm

Granitehewer wrote:welcome to my hangover on monday

I'll remember that if a/o when i have my first one

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:42 pm

its not just the hangover,its what it represents, and no,this isn't a call for any wimp comments,for i don't mean that

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:58 pm

Believe me, I sympathize with your hangover... I've been there plenty of times.

As for what the Imperium of Man has become, it's not as simple as bunch of evil people contorting the Emperor's message to ther own ends. After the Horus Heresy, things happened - the Age of Apostasy, Vandire, the Black Crusades/Abbadon's warmaking - that forced the Imperium to become less and less liberal in order to survive, and to continue to protect its citizens from the true evils; such as Chaos, orks and other malicious aliens. When you have a history of, for example, Vandire and the Thorian revolt, things like the Inquisition are proved hateful but necessary - rather than just hateful.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:59 pm

yet you're still married.....................magic

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:03 pm

Opposites attract... I'm a whiskey man, while my wife's a tequila drinker.

Granitehewer · Post by **Granitehewer** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:04 pm

a tequilaphilic women is perfect,here are all stout'ohols

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:51 pm

Jordanis wrote:*scratches his head*

I don't see what's so worshipable about some guy who turned himself into a giant worm and lived a couple thousand years. I mean, sure, he made Arrakis green again, but really.

Umm, thats the God-Emperor before his rebirth and his creation of the Imperium. We are talking about the new God-Emperor who's mind is now spread across the galaxy and who's body is now the mecha on which human life binds.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:59 pm

I believe the Imperium's propoganda group initiated Deep's response.