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Rochey wrote:Bumblebee was pretty cool, though why doesn't he speak any more? His voice was fixed at the end of the first movie. Still, it adds a bit of flavour to his character, so I'm willing to overlook it.

They gave a bs excuse in the movie...sam said that his vocal stuff was malfunctioning again...basicly they decided he was cooler using the radio to speak same as us, so it's all good.

There's so much continuity errors in this movie you can't possibly realistically explain half of them. Hell how many thousands of civilians died in the first one?

Monroe wrote:There's so much continuity errors in this movie you can't possibly realistically explain half of them. Hell how many thousands of civilians died in the first one?

It's stand alone, it has no prior canon to contradict.

Monroe wrote:

One thing that website I posted didn't point out was how could the transformers move the blocks on the great pyramids? While yes they can throw tanks each of those blocks weighs more than a tank. Some of the bigger ones weigh 100 tons. I don't see how a transformer can cause them to fall by just landing on the pyramid. That angered me.

Lt. Staplic wrote:It's stand alone, it has no prior canon to contradict.

Yes it does. It exists in the same universe as the first movie.

I think he means the movies are stand alone.

Also, an Abrams weighs about 72 tons. So even the larger pyramid blocks aren't that much larger than a tank.

Rochey wrote:

Lt. Staplic wrote:It's stand alone, it has no prior canon to contradict.

Yes it does. It exists in the same universe as the first movie.

I was referring to prior comics/TV shows, but yes your right, it had the canon restraints of the first movie.

Tyyr wrote:I think he means the movies are stand alone.

Also, an Abrams weighs about 72 tons. So even the larger pyramid blocks aren't that much larger than a tank.

Oh I thought they were lighter. That's a little better.

TF canon is... almost a contradiction in terms. G1? Which version? Animated, Marvel, Dreamwave or IDW? Not to even get into the Japanese stuff. Is Beast Wars a sequel to G1 comics, cartoon or some weird fusion of both?

But, yeah, the 2007 movie and ROTF are canon to each other. The spinoff material... not so much. I can get a headache trying to keep this shit straight.

My two cents.

The twin Autobots can go. The only thing I found funny about them was their introduction.

Optimus Prime apparently has been working out. In the first film he got his ass handed to him by Megatron. In this one he takes on three Decepticons with Megatron as one of them. He's definitely a badass in the movie.

Bumblebee also kicked ass.

Most of the humor should have not been in there. The Mom getting high didn't need to be there.

I can deal with the soldiers carrying assualt rifles. You just don't carry RPGs wherever you go.

McAvoy wrote:You just don't carry RPGs wherever you go.

But if their going to be fighting the giant heavily armored robots, they should be. normally no you wouldn't, but they should be outfitted for what the task requires, and the task requires RPG's and up. I don't mind the assault rifles though because as seen on the screen, the do appear to be a decent defensive weapon, stalling the transformers.

AFAIK, only Rangers carry LAW's (or the more modern equivalent) as part of their kit.

Mikey wrote:AFAIK, only Rangers carry LAW's (or the more modern equivalent) as part of their kit.

of course none of our known military agencies/units are known to be hunting for giant, armored, sapient robots.

You forget that not all the robots they hunted were big. Many of them ended up being small. Plus small arms seemed able to harm even the bigger ones. Also of note is the strike team used the Autobots to handle the tougher bad guys.

Deepcrush wrote:You forget that not all the robots they hunted were big. Many of them ended up being small.

Even if they're small, they're still built out of whateverium.

Deepcrush wrote: Plus small arms seemed able to harm even the bigger ones.

They did? When?

Deepcrush wrote:Also of note is the strike team used the Autobots to handle the tougher bad guys.

Indeed. So why have humans on the ground at all if they've not got weapons to tackle the Decepticons?