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Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:26 pm
by Deepcrush
Welcome to the world of GW Bush. If you wanted to know what a low point was for the US, you're looking at one now. :(

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:26 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Where's that head-banging emoticon when you need it?

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:27 pm
by Deepcrush
Rochey wrote:Where's that head-banging emoticon when you need it?
Crying would work better.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:27 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Rochey wrote:
Now, we have kids who don't even know who Winston Churchill was
Please tell me you're joking.
The only thing I know about him is that he had something to do with WWII...I think :?

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:28 pm
by Deepcrush
Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
Rochey wrote:
Now, we have kids who don't even know who Winston Churchill was
Please tell me you're joking.
The only thing I know about him is that he had something to do with WWII...I think :?
Yeah, I'd go with the crying icon...

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:28 pm
by Mikey
Blackstar the Chakat wrote:The only thing I know about him is that he had something to do with WWII...I think
If you're not joking, you need to hire a lawyer and sue the sh*t out of the Sheboygan (or wherever you are) Board of Education immediately.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:31 pm
by Sionnach Glic
The only thing I know about him is that he had something to do with WWII...I think
Winston Churchill is one of the most famous figures in history. He led Britain through WW2, and was probably one of the best Prime Ministers they ever had.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:34 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Rochey wrote:
The only thing I know about him is that he had something to do with WWII...I think
Winston Churchill is one of the most famous figures in history. He led Britain through WW2, and was probably one of the best Prime Ministers they ever had.
Oh? Well, he must have been a formidable tactician then.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:34 pm
by Deepcrush
He also voiced winnie the pooh on the BBC.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:34 pm
by Mark
Deepcrush wrote:
Rochey wrote:
All that is true Mikey but do you honestly expect everyone in your country to have reverance to the day and it's symbolism? WWII is passing out of living memory (and that is unfortunate) and will some be nothing but a historical low point in American history.
*sigh* Why is it that people that live in countries that had no part in the Pearl Harbour attack not only know all about the incident, but also observe it with far more respect than the majority of the inhabitants of that country?
Depends on where you live. Dec 7th here (where I live) is still met with half mast and prayer. Though, I know of someplace on the west coast that down played it to avoid problems for the asian population.
And out here in Hawaii, at the Arizona Memorial, they have a memorial service. It's very tastefully done. Visitors draw slips of paper with the name of one of the fallen, and take a moment to reflect on him, before they honor every casualty of that conflict (civilian casualties as well). A little known fact is our other military bases were his as well, like Schofield Barracks and Wheeler Army Airfield.

Oddly enough, the Arizona Memorial is a very popular attraction with tourists from Japan.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:35 pm
by Aaron
Rochey wrote:
Winston Churchill is one of the most famous figures in history. He led Britain through WW2, and was probably one of the best Prime Ministers they ever had.
Ironically he was also one of the worst First Sea Lords in history as well.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:37 pm
by Mark
Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
Rochey wrote:
The only thing I know about him is that he had something to do with WWII...I think
Winston Churchill is one of the most famous figures in history. He led Britain through WW2, and was probably one of the best Prime Ministers they ever had.
Oh? Well, he must have been a formidable tactician then.
More I think that he was able to keep his country together and stay the hell out of his generals way. The best leaders around know when to let those under their command to their jobs.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:37 pm
by Captain Seafort
Blackstar the Chakat wrote:Oh? Well, he must have been a formidable tactician then.
He was shit - as the senior British General at the time once said, "Winston had ten ideas every day, only one of which was good and he didn't know which it was".

As a public speaker, on the other hand, and as an inspirational figure to the nation, he was unparalleled.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:38 pm
by Aaron
Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
Oh? Well, he must have been a formidable tactician then.
Not really, his tenure as First Sea Lord lead to Gallopli (a colossal disaster in WWI). His strength was that he knew how to rally his nation.

Re: Star Trek XI

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:39 pm
by Captain Seafort
Cpl Kendall wrote:Ironically he was also one of the worst First Sea Lords in history as well.
He was First Lord of the Admiralty, not 1SL, and he had a good few very good ideas. Even Gallpoli was a good idea as first conceived.