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Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:21 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Kahless was an ancient Klingon and he looked like a modern one.
I was too angry to talk about this earlier, but I've calmed down. So here's my thought.
There is actually some slight precedent for this. One of the things almost everyone overlooks about the "Klingon Forehead Problem", as it used to be known, is that in TMP, the Klingons looked like this :
And they
all looked like that. A single ridge running from nose to back of head. No unique pattern of crenellations on each head.
Now with these guys... well, I guess the "normal" Klingons, the TMP guys, and these new guys, could all be different races of Klingon with different appearances. No different than putting pictures of a Great Dane, a Golden Retriever, and a Rottweiler next to one another and saying they're all one species. So it's justifiable, technically.
Though of course it brings us to ask where the hell all these variants have been since then...
That said, this confirms the thing I've said about this show all along - it's going to completely ignore the TOS aesthetic, trampling all over it on every passing whim of the writers.
And if that turns out to be the case, then fuck this show.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:35 pm
by Mikey
The issue, as I've said many times regarding ENT, isn't that the discontinuities can't be justified; the issue is that the show should in no way require the viewer to do such mental acrobatics in order to make such justifications.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:49 am
by Nutso
http://www.cbs.com/shows/star-trek-disc ... re-actors/
Star Trek: Discovery Enlists Three More Actors. Terry Serpico, Maulik Pancholy, and Sam Vartholomeos to play Starfleet officers.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:16 pm
by DarkMoineau
Is it me or there is more peoples on Shenzou than Discovery?
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:49 pm
by Nutso
http://trekcore.com/blog/2017/02/next-s ... am-aboard/
Terry Serpico comes aboard as Starfleet Admiral Anderson, “a high-ranking official” in the fleet. Appearing previously in Rescue Me, Army Wives, Law & Order: SVU, and a host of other shows over a lengthy television career, 53-year-old Serpico’s role will be the first Admiral to join the regular cast of a Trek series.
Newcomer Sam Vartholomeos arrives as a newcomer to the screen, with minor roles in The Secret Life of Walter Mitty and FOX’s “The Following.” The young actor will take on the role of a “Ensign Connor, a Junior Officer in Starfleet Academy assigned to the Starship Shenzhou.“
Maulik Pancholy may be the most visually familiar actor of this new grouping, playing “Dr. Nambue, Chief Medical Officer of the Starship Shenzhou.” A familiar face from Weeds and 30 Rock, the 43-year-old was first spotted in one of co-star Chris Obi’s exuberant Twitter videos last month, though his true reason for appearing in that video wasn’t officially known until today.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:49 pm
by Nutso
DarkMoineau wrote:
Is it me or there is more peoples on Shenzou than Discovery?
They're probably shooting Shenzou scenes first.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:00 pm
by Mikey
How is "Connor" an ensign if he's still in the academy?
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:06 pm
by Captain Seafort
The same way Nog was, presumably.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:21 pm
by Mikey
I thought I remembered Nog being addressed as "cadet" or "Mr. Nog" until he graduated. But if not, it's a valid question in both cases; a middie isn't an ensign until he graduates from the academy, se non?
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:41 pm
by Graham Kennedy
IIRC, Kirk was established to be a Lieutenant whilst in the academy.
Out of universe, it's just a mistake. In universe, I'd guess that cadets can be granted temporary ranks. Maybe there's like a six month placement aboard a Starship as part of academy training, and the cadet is granted a temporary rank whilst they do it.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:38 pm
by Teaos
Is this being made by DC???
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:08 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Mikey wrote:How is "Connor" an ensign if he's still in the academy?
It's not like there's a lack of precedence.
"Acting Ensign Wesley Crusher" --- you don't even need to be in the academy.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:14 pm
by Mikey
Sonic Glitch wrote:Mikey wrote:How is "Connor" an ensign if he's still in the academy?
It's not like there's a lack of precedence.
"Acting Ensign Wesley Crusher" --- you don't even need to be in the academy.
Which term included, very obviously, a specific reference to the brevet nature of the rank and which, IIRC, was rescinded in favor of "cadet" (as in, our modern "midshipman") when ol' Wes finally did go to the Academy. Not analogous to issue of the question which I had asked.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:52 pm
by DarkMoineau
it could be refered on screen as acting ensign.
Re: Rumours, news and general speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:13 pm
by Mikey
DarkMoineau wrote:it could be refered on screen as acting ensign.
Absolutely it could... just, in the absence of any positive information of such, I didn't assume it would.