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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:08 pm
by Captain Seafort
Mikey wrote:Yes, this does seem to be the area in which the Cardassians (and everyone else) outclass the Federation. That, a/o an unwillingness or divided mindset of the UFP Council to commit to a war.
I wouldn't say everyone outclasses the Feds - we've seen very little in the way of decent ground forces from anyone. The Jem'Hadar, while usually compenent, dropped the ball abysmally at AR-558, and the Klingons are notorious for their tendency to abandon anything resembling military competence once they're within sight of their objective. Only the Cardassians, with multiple canon mentions of armoured vehicles, seem to have anything that could reasonably described as an army.
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:35 pm
by Mikey
Point well taken. But yes, the Cardies at least seem to have a grasp of ground-pounding.
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:00 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Hmm, looks like the Cardassians lucked out, then.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:09 pm
by mlsnoopy
It looks like i made a mistake. instead of Fedaration Cardasia war i should have written wars.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:18 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Well, we've only heard of the one Cardassia-Earth war, not counting the Dominion war, so it would still be correct.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:19 pm
by Deepcrush
You mean the UFP-Cardassian war right Rochey?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:20 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Pfft. UFP, Earth, what's the difference?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:24 pm
by Deepcrush
Hey, don't we have a vulcan or something in the fleet somewhere?
Affirmative action my ass! HAHAHAHAHA
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:39 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Hey, don't we have a vulcan or something in the fleet somewhere?
Yeah, he's hanging out with the Andorians.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:55 pm
by Deepcrush
Oh great!
Who sent the vulcan to the welfare office!?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:06 pm
by Mikey
Who sent the vulcan to the welfare office!?
You mean, "the office for all non-humans in the UFP?"
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:10 pm
by Deepcrush
Yeah, that's the welfare office. I think its down next to waste reclamation.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:00 pm
by Jordanis
I get the feeling that the ineffective response was a distance+bureaucracy kind of equation.
Here, watch this: a Federation government has been elected on a platform of peace, prosperity, and a philosophy that it is unnecessary to wage war. C'mon, that kind of thing could make a good showing in the UFP. Anyway, they didn't win by much, or it's a minority government, so they're in a precarious position. Here come the Cardies making trouble, what's the most attractive option for them? Ending the conflict, with words, as soon as possible to show the strength of the statesmanship they were elected for.
Of course, we have little to no idea what the political structure of the UFP looks like.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:49 pm
by Mikey
But it seems to be that every UFP council we've seen (or whose influence has been felt) has tended in similar directions.
Avoiding conflict, even at a cost, seems to be the way of the modern UFP.
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:52 pm
by Jordanis
Mikey wrote:But it seems to be that every UFP council we've seen (or whose influence has been felt) has tended in similar directions.
Avoiding conflict, even at a cost, seems to be the way of the modern UFP.
That's true, but I think the Cardassian situation is the greatest Danegeld we've ever seen the UFP pay.