Into Darkness - the influences (SPOLIERS)

[Tsukiyumi]

I think this one was to try and establish the whole thing more firmly, and hopefully they'll go for their other idea for the next one. They said they debated whether to have an exploration story for this one; the ending certainly sets that up.

[IanKennedy]

And were lurching around all over the place as though the ship were tumbling despite exterior visuals showing her falling steadily.

Actually, having seen it twice now the ship is tumbling while falling. There are several shots where the ship is shown to rotate in a certain way and then the interior rotates in a consistent manor. There's even a line from Scotty about 'stabilising' the ship.

[Tsukiyumi]

That would be centrifugal pull, then. Nice touch.

[IanKennedy]

That would be centrifugal pull, then. Nice touch.

Hmm... I think it was meant to be more just simple 'Gravity'. All be it a highly concentrated effect.

[Graham Kennedy]

And were lurching around all over the place as though the ship were tumbling despite exterior visuals showing her falling steadily.

There was a line in there about the gravity malfunctioning. I took that interior tumbling to be the gravity field fluctuating around all over the place....

Slightly more subtly I think Chekov said something about the deflector when he went to reset the circuit breakers, which made me think of Kirk on the E-B.

Ah, I remember thinking about that when he said it. Good one.

[kostmayer]

Admiral Pike telling Kirk they gave the Enterprise back to him was slightly reminiscent of Kirk telling Scotty the same thing in TMP. I did say slightly.

[LaughingCheese]

Anyone else notice....I just realized...that the Enterprise's mission to Vulcan and battle with the Narada in the first film was its actual FIRST mission, and they left with ID the FIRST five year mission.

Interesting. Whatever happened between IX and ID must have been short jonts around Federation space.

And seriously, the Feds had never taken on long duration missions like that before?

[Captain Seafort]

Admiral Pike telling Kirk they gave the Enterprise back to him was slightly reminiscent of Kirk telling Scotty the same thing in TMP. I did say slightly.

More than slightly - he used the exact same phrase, almost the same inflection as Shatner.

Interesting. Whatever happened between IX and ID must have been short jonts around Federation space.

It's a bit over a year later. The stardate given for XI (not Insurrection ) was 2258.42 (call it 2 June), ID was 2259.55 (20 July). However, given the speed of warp in the Abramsverse they could easily have been halfway across the galaxy on some of those trips.

And seriously, the Feds had never taken on long duration missions like that before?

The Abramsverse starfleet was described as "a peacekeeping armada" in XI, and while they described themselves as explorers in ID, all the missions we've seen have had specific objectives - launch from Earth, do the job, return to Earth. It's certainly doable, given the speeds involved.

[IanKennedy]

And were lurching around all over the place as though the ship were tumbling despite exterior visuals showing her falling steadily.

There was a line in there about the gravity malfunctioning. I took that interior tumbling to be the gravity field fluctuating around all over the place....

No the line was that the artificial gravity had failed

[kostmayer]

McCoy performing surgery on a torpedo?

[Captain Picard's Hair]

McCoy performing surgery on a torpedo?

Despite a few hints at STVI, they missed the opportunity to have the Klingons quote Shakespeare!

What's in a name? That which we call Khan by any other name would smell as foul.

[kostmayer]

Heh, was watching The Undiscovered Country earlier. Best use of Shakespeare in Trek ever

"I am constant as the northern star"
"I'd give real money if he'd shut up."

The more original Trek I watch, the more I think Urban has the character McCoy nailed.

[Graham Kennedy]

And were lurching around all over the place as though the ship were tumbling despite exterior visuals showing her falling steadily.

There was a line in there about the gravity malfunctioning. I took that interior tumbling to be the gravity field fluctuating around all over the place....

No the line was that the artificial gravity had failed

He says "Gravity systems are failing". That doesn't necessarily mean that they have stopped functioning completely.

We also don't get an external view during the scenes where the insides are 90 degrees off kilter. Perhaps it was tumbling that much.

[IanKennedy]

He says "Gravity systems are failing". That doesn't necessarily mean that they have stopped functioning completely.

We also don't get an external view during the scenes where the insides are 90 degrees off kilter. Perhaps it was tumbling that much.

I watched it pretty closely the second time around. The times when the gravity moved matched times when the ship rotated. We look for it again next time.

[Tyyr]

Spock tried to Nerve Pinch Khan.