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I just saw it, and loved it. My long anticipation seems to have been richly rewarded. It wasn't so much a great action movie as a powerful film with a lot of action. The ending was fantastic.
Christopher Nolan has to get a lot of credit for creating a trilogy in which each film is great in its own right and each builds on the previous; the Dark Knight trilogy never ran out of steam. Also, in closing the series the producers avoided the probability of losing creative momentum and letting an uncapped series run aground. This trilogy sets the bar high for other 'superhero' movies to match, though the Spider-man remake was a great improvement on the films earlier this decade.
Christopher Nolan has to get a lot of credit for creating a trilogy in which each film is great in its own right and each builds on the previous; the Dark Knight trilogy never ran out of steam. Also, in closing the series the producers avoided the probability of losing creative momentum and letting an uncapped series run aground. This trilogy sets the bar high for other 'superhero' movies to match, though the Spider-man remake was a great improvement on the films earlier this decade.
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Well, it was OK, once it got going. I thought it was overly long and concerned it's self with stuff that didn't really matter or move the plot along. Once it got going it was pretty good. No where near as good as The Dark Knight.
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Saw it in IMAX today; I think it's downright epic, though there were a few points that dragged for me early on in the film. Not many, though; maybe a few minutes.
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Well, finally got to see it and I most say I am rather disappointed. Now the movie was not "bad" and certainly had it's good points but imho it is by far the weakest of the triology. It certainly left a somewhat bad aftertaste in my mouth and I am not sure why. Is it because it's slow moving and partly overly long? Maybe, but generally I appreciate it when - especially an action movie - takes it's time to develop characters and story. Was I expecting to much of the villain after the Joker? Well no, I think Bane was brillant. Some might critique the odd voice but imho, here is character wearing a mask covering almost every part of it's face capable of conveing emotion, so of course they impart character via his voice. Well done imho. No, I think it was really weak because it pretty much had the weakest Batman of the three, physically, psychological and technological.
That being said, I recently also watched a bunch of DCAU Batman movies (Batman:Mask of the Phantasm, Batman SubZero etc. and a bunch of TAS) and honestly, I think the Batman of the DCAU is still by far the best and most balanced one and superior to the movies.
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I personally though Batman Begins was worse... infact the Dark Knight is the only one worth rewatching.
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I just can't get past Batman's voice. Ruins the character for me. Makes him a joke. The only reason that I will watch it once it comes out on Netflix is because it was filmed here in Pittsburgh.
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I really never got the problem with his voice. He talks to people who know him as Bruce... so he disguises his voice. It's not only logical, it's mandatory to maintain credibility.
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You'd think with all this tech he could make a voice modifier which changed his voice but kept it sounding like a real person...
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Why would he want to sound like a real person? Wasn't the point being something unreal, to strike fear into the criminals of Gotham?
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Sound like Michael Jackson then...
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The DC Universe is not real good at the credible disguises. Superman's disguise was a pair of regular glasses. A lot of their hero types just wore small around-the-eyes mask... no better than sunglasses...
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I don't think the Marvel Universe is much better in that respect...Jim wrote:The DC Universe is not real good at the credible disguises. Superman's disguise was a pair of regular glasses. A lot of their hero types just wore small around-the-eyes mask... no better than sunglasses...
Any mask that leaves the jaw visible will help people who know the hero to recognize him...
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I don't know. The ones that actually care in the Marvel Universe about hiding their identity do a pretty good job of it.Praeothmin wrote:I don't think the Marvel Universe is much better in that respect...Jim wrote:The DC Universe is not real good at the credible disguises. Superman's disguise was a pair of regular glasses. A lot of their hero types just wore small around-the-eyes mask... no better than sunglasses...
Any mask that leaves the jaw visible will help people who know the hero to recognize him...
Most of them just don't care though. Costumes are simply cool (or in Hulk's case, useless).
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Especially true of Bruce Wayne/Batman since as Wayne he's a very famous person in that fictional universe. Comparatively a person like Peter Parker is just an ordinary guy in his non-superhero role. I wasn't bothered by the growl either. Batman, since he has no special powers, needs all the tools at his disposal to create an aura of fear around him.GrahamKennedy wrote:I really never got the problem with his voice. He talks to people who know him as Bruce... so he disguises his voice. It's not only logical, it's mandatory to maintain credibility.
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Most Marvel characters don't have "secret identies". Spiderman being the big exception, and he wears a full body suit. Most Marvel characters don't have "jobs"Praeothmin wrote:I don't think the Marvel Universe is much better in that respect...Jim wrote:The DC Universe is not real good at the credible disguises. Superman's disguise was a pair of regular glasses. A lot of their hero types just wore small around-the-eyes mask... no better than sunglasses...
Any mask that leaves the jaw visible will help people who know the hero to recognize him...
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