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Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:11 pm
by Captain Seafort
GrahamKennedy wrote:The Two Towers
That incoherent crap? :?

Anyway, my vote goes to The Life of Brian, if it can be considered a sequel.

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:16 pm
by Graham Kennedy
What would it be a sequel to?

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:19 pm
by Captain Seafort
Holy Grail. As I said, if it can be considered a sequel.

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:59 pm
by Mikey
That's a big "if." I don't see it.

Besides, it wasn't better.

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:38 pm
by Reliant121
Agreed.

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:00 am
by Deepcrush
Captain Seafort wrote:
GrahamKennedy wrote:The Two Towers
That incoherent crap? :?
Are we talking about the film or novel? Because Two Towers (novel) was better where Fellowship (Film) was the better... RotK (both) were impressive in scope but I just didn't feel connected with the characters in the fashion I felt that I should have.

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:50 am
by Reliant121
I preferred the Two Towers film over The Fellowship of the Ring anyway...

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:19 am
by kostmayer
The Two Towers was the best of the Triology of films I thought, and much improved in the extended edition.

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:28 pm
by Captain Seafort
Deepcrush wrote:Are we talking about the film or novel?
Film.
Because Two Towers (novel) was better where Fellowship (Film) was the better
Agreed, absolutely.
RotK (both) were impressive in scope but I just didn't feel connected with the characters in the fashion I felt that I should have.
Agreed again, although I'm not a great fan of the film. Its visuals were extremely impressive, but the trek across Mordor and Aragorn's move to the Black Gate felt badly rushed, the lighthouse of Mordor was downright stupid, and they missed out what was probably the most important aspect of the book - the Scouring of the Shire.

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:16 pm
by kostmayer
The Scouring of the Shire was the worst omission in my opinion. Not least because they could easily have shaved enough off the overstretched ending to fit it in the film.

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:42 pm
by Deepcrush
They should have had two versions of the films. The short version for the theaters and an insanely long version for the real fans.
Agreed again, although I'm not a great fan of the film. Its visuals were extremely impressive, but the trek across Mordor and Aragorn's move to the Black Gate felt badly rushed, the lighthouse of Mordor was downright stupid, and they missed out what was probably the most important aspect of the book - the Scouring of the Shire.
Agreed, the kick on Saurman was a waste.

Am I the only one who hated the Army of the Dead bit?

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:09 pm
by kostmayer
Deepcrush wrote:Am I the only one who hated the Army of the Dead bit?
No, they were too uber. If they had turned up earlier no body else would have needed to bother showing up to the fight.

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:39 pm
by Mikey
Am I the only one who felt that all three films were a huge disservice to the wonderful books of Mr. Tolkien?

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:04 pm
by Deepcrush
I thought FotR carried itself very well and tTT didn't bother me until Helms Deep... ITS THE F***ING HORNBURG AND THERE WERE NO ELVES THERE!

Re: Sequels that outdid the original

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:12 pm
by Captain Seafort
Deepcrush wrote:I thought FotR carried itself very well and tTT didn't bother me until Helms Deep... ITS THE F***ING HORNBURG AND THERE WERE NO ELVES THERE!
The whole Rohan-related plot was a mess- they made a real mess of Theoden's personality, wasted lord knows how long with Aragorn's trip down the river, added the elves and left our the Huorns. It wasn't the worst of the film though - that "honour" has to go to the detour to Osgilliath and the mess they made of Faramir.