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Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:08 pm
by Praeothmin
I would love to see the Gorn's "first encounter" revisited, as I felt they were underpresented, and were an interesting race.
Warlike, yet in this case they were not the aggressors.
I'd also like to see some space battles between the E-Nil and a Gorn ships , and at the last moment of the movie, to prepare for the third Abrams Nu-Trek, a Klingon ship raiding some sort of outpost or something...
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:19 pm
by Tyyr
Mikey wrote:Not people who aren't Trekkies.
And yet that scene has still come up in both Family Guy and Mythbusters. I don't think it's as obscure as you're making it out to be.
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:55 pm
by Mark
Lol.......didn't one of US submit it to mythbusters? I know GK was talking about doing it.
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:10 pm
by Graham Kennedy
They pretty much have to do the Klingons, I'd have thought. The whole point of rebooting (aka going to alternate timeline) is to cash in on the name recognition factor that the general public has for Trek. The Gorn or the Tholians might please the fans, but the average person has never heard of them. But say Klingon and most everyone has at least some idea of what you mean.
And me, I think it would be a horrible idea to redo any earlier story. Give us something new!
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:30 pm
by Mikey
GrahamKennedy wrote:And me, I think it would be a horrible idea to redo any earlier story. Give us something new!
Agreed 1000%.
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:07 pm
by thelordharry
Section 31!!!
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 10:40 pm
by Tsukiyumi
thelordharry wrote:Section 31!!!
Bitchslap from GK in 5... 4... 3... 2...
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:37 am
by Mark
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Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:23 am
by thelordharry
Something that's not been done before? Hmmmm, how about a fillum where nothing bad at all happens and everyone gets on really well and everyone just sits around drinking raktajino?
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:53 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I think it's a safe bet that the villains of the next movie will be the Klingons. STXI managed to give the franchise a new lease on life and also managed to present it in such a way that it appealed to a more casual audience, who would previously have turned up their noses at the idea of seeing a Trek movie. Now the guys in charge will be wanting to capitalise on this. What better way to get even more people in than present the new audience with villains who they already "know", even if only by name?
Having a recognisable group as the antagonists of the next film would go a long way to helping to get more and more non-Trekkies into the movie theatres. Maybe if the next movie is a success, we'll see a move towards the more obscure races that have previously appeared, as the new audience will have already been sold on the idea that this is an "accessable" version of Trek that they'll go and see a sequel to. But for the time being the powers that be will be wanting to stay in safe territory.
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:57 pm
by kostmayer
If it is the Klingons, I hope they do a better job then they did with the Romulans. I really disliked their portrayal in Star Trek.
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:00 pm
by Captain Seafort
I liked them, largely because "the Romulans"weren't the villain - Nero was, and compared with some of the idiotic motives we've seen from previous villains, his was simple, coherent and above all believable.
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:21 pm
by Mark
And don't forget, Nero wasn't a "mainline" Romulan. He was a miner, a loaner, on the fringe of society. All he has was his job and family, then went apeshit when he lost his wife.
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:47 pm
by Graham Kennedy
That's what I liked about Nero. His plan was workable, but his motivations were insane. He wasn't some general bent on conquest, he was the Romulan equivalent of one of those postal workers who loses it and decides to get a gun and take out everyone he can before he's taken down himself.
Re: Appartently still looking for a bad guy
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:16 am
by Mikey
Indeed. Nero's species was just about inconsequential to the story, save for his access to the Narada. Kirk & Co. weren't fighting "The Romulans," any more than they were fighting the Klingons. Not only did it make for a less trite film, it saved Abrams from more universe-rewriting than was necessary.