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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:17 pm
by Deepcrush
I've seen their "mentality" change when it serves them. I think they could change up real quick with that first capt that brags about the honor of the kill that he just scored being an enemy battleship!

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:20 pm
by Mikey
I agree with Deepcrush. If a BHS (Big Honking Ship) like that were so contrary to the Klingon mentality, why would it be the foucs of the Empire's war machine as the Chancellor's flagship?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:22 pm
by Deepcrush
Klingons like getting to blast people to pieces and they don't like to share, this ship gives them that ablity. They can take out all but the most powerful ship in the quad and they can do it one on one! Thats a klingon mentality for you.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:00 pm
by Jordanis
I don't think we'll see many Negh'vars until they have an even bigger ship for Gowron to command. He just seems like that kind of guy...

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:08 pm
by Teaos
Gowron is dead. And Martok the new leader prefers small ships.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:16 pm
by Captain Seafort
Martok may be a small-unit commander by inclination, but he's got enough sense and experience to know that there are times when you need the sheer brute force of a Negh'var.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:18 pm
by Teaos
I didnt say he wouldnt use them in a fleet. Just that he doesnt use them personally and would have no need to make a super sized one to show off like Regent Worf did.

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:52 pm
by Jordanis
Teaos wrote:Gowron is dead. And Martok the new leader prefers small ships.
Whoops. I knew that, but I forget, I haven't watched DS9 all the way through.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:34 am
by Deepcrush
Behind the times much! :lol:

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:36 am
by Jordanis
Deepcrush wrote:Behind the times much! :lol:
Didn't catch the initial run(was six when it started...), keep trying to find a good episode guide that will tell me what episodes are both bad and safe to skip in terms of important happenings.

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:23 pm
by Jim
Why use a claw hammer when you can use a 10lb sledge?

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:05 pm
by Teaos
Cause it would be slow and bulky and inacurate. I'd rather something smaller that you can really rip into someone with.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:58 am
by Captain Seafort
But you still need the big guns to break up tough targets. Take an example from the WW2 seige of Toulon - a US cruiser was set the task of engaging a fort that was causing problems for the attack. It failed - the 6" shells were "bouncing off like tennis balls". Enter HMS Ramillies, and a couple of 15" salvos flattened the offending fort. That's why raw firepower is so important.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:04 am
by Teaos
Oh I totallt agree that you will always need some big guns,

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:08 am
by Tsukiyumi
Which is why I still believe the US military is off its rocker to not design at least a 21st century battlecruiser, something fast, with a lot of cruise missles and retaining at least the 16" guns from the Iowa-class.

Oh, I know the reasoning: the threat has shifted to terrorists, not massive enemy militaries, but the future could just as easily show the winds shift back, and we'll be caught with our pants down on a bunch of outdated crapships. In the early nineties, "experts" proclaimed the MBT to be obsolete, but they've proven quite effective in the 21st century regardless.