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Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:14 pm
by Lazar
Mark wrote:I'm sorry, but she was miscast for the roll. Unfortunately, it happens. At least we only had one season of her instead of being force fed her for six more, and the movies as well.
I've read that initially, Denise Crosby was going to be Troi and Marina Sirtis was going to be Yar. (And also that Riker and Troi were going to be partially modeled on Decker and Ilia from Phase II.)
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:19 pm
by kostmayer
Lazar wrote:And also that Riker and Troi were going to be partially modeled on Decker and Ilia from Phase II
Decker? Hmm. Might have been an interesting plot device if Riker was one of the contenders for Captain of the Enterprise D, only for it to be given to Picard at the last minute.
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:27 pm
by Lazar
kostmayer wrote:Decker? Hmm. Might have been an interesting plot device if Riker was one of the contenders for Captain of the Enterprise D, only for it to be given to Picard at the last minute.
Apparently the similarity is strongest in the first season, and then later they gave Frakes more freedom so we see Riker growing a beard, being jokier and liking jazz.
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:54 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Captain Seafort wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:And people say Starfleet's dumb?
How do you think the Federation survives? They're stupid, but their enemies are even worse.
There's 'dumb' and then there was Sela here.
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:33 am
by steamrunner
Lazar wrote:Mark wrote:I'm sorry, but she was miscast for the roll. Unfortunately, it happens. At least we only had one season of her instead of being force fed her for six more, and the movies as well.
I've read that initially, Denise Crosby was going to be Troi and Marina Sirtis was going to be Yar. (And also that Riker and Troi were going to be partially modeled on Decker and Ilia from Phase II.)
Hmmm...Marina Sirtis as Yar.
I would definitely volunteer for restraint demonstrations with her...
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:45 pm
by Sionnach Glic
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Captain Seafort wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:And people say Starfleet's dumb?
How do you think the Federation survives? They're stupid, but their enemies are even worse.
There's 'dumb' and then there was Sela here.
There's also charging a machine gun emplacement with just swords, as the Klingons did.
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:12 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Charging at armed, entrenched troops using spears worked out okay for the Zulu, though.
...Oh, right. Never mind.
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:00 am
by Captain Picard's Hair
On another note, I have myself wondered just what made Pardek renege on many decades of friendship with Spock and betray him. Was he himself coerced or forced? His simple "jolan tru, Spock" and walk away was rather dissatisfying.
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:09 am
by Bryan Moore
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:On another note, I have myself wondered just what made Pardek renege on many decades of friendship with Spock and betray him. Was he himself coerced or forced? His simple "jolan tru, Spock" and walk away was rather dissatisfying.
Yeah, I was thinking of this while watching too. My guess would be that he was pressured to do so by Tal Shiar or somethign?
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:15 am
by Mark
Could you imagine the fight scenes with Mirina as Yar? Wow. Talk about a jiggle
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:18 am
by steamrunner
Mark wrote:Could you imagine the fight scenes with Mirina as Yar? Wow. Talk about a jiggle
It's gonna take plastic surgery to get the grin off my face...
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:04 pm
by thelordharry
But she'd be in a yellow uniform rather than a blue one and I know this might sound wierd but, there was something about her in that blue uniform that just wouldn't translate to any other colour...
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:17 pm
by Deepcrush
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:38 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Bryan Moore wrote:Captain Picard's Hair wrote:On another note, I have myself wondered just what made Pardek renege on many decades of friendship with Spock and betray him. Was he himself coerced or forced? His simple "jolan tru, Spock" and walk away was rather dissatisfying.
Yeah, I was thinking of this while watching too. My guess would be that he was pressured to do so by Tal Shiar or somethign?
For all we know it could've been a setup all along. To when they first met.
Re: Episode Discussion: Unification Parts 1 & 2
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:46 pm
by Deepcrush
Wouldn't shock me if the guy was just trying to earn points with the government.