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Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:04 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Probably my favourite class of ship in Trek. Simple, compact and a functional design. The vessel is one of the best combat designs in Trek, and the ship itself was capable of giving a Connie a tough time.

Although mostly obsolete and little more than space-faring redshirts by the time of DS9, they were an excellent and capable class for their time.

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:58 pm
by Mark
This is a class I DETESTED when I first saw it. I don't know why, but it irritated me. But slowly, function overcame form for me as I realized the value of a ship that is equipped like this. Nearly the equil of the Connie, smaller and more manuverable, a smaller target profile, less crew to operate, and (some argue better fields of fire).

I have to say, it grew on me.

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:58 pm
by Foxfyre
Yeah, make me wonder that without the rollbar does she have aft weapons? Looks like all her aft weapons are located in the rollbar (two pulse phasers and the two torpedo tubes)

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:50 am
by stitch626
In theory, the pulse phasers could have existed without the rollbar... but without it, there go four torp tubes.

Oh, and it is one of my favorite ships too.

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:05 am
by Lazar
The Lantree appeared to just have the 12 phaser emitters for armament.

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:13 am
by stitch626
Well, I did say "in theory".

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:16 am
by Lazar
Then we have the Soyuz class. What the hell was the armament on that thing?

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:21 am
by Mikey
Standard Miranda armament, plus one type XIV "big boxy thingy."

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:32 am
by stitch626
Are we sure those "things" were phasers? They could be giant sensor pods for all we know.

And the Soyuz had 4 "big boxy thingies". Unless your talking about something different than what I am talking about. In which case, never mind.

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:21 am
by Foxfyre
I allways thought of that ship as a mobile sensor platfrom like the SURTASS Ships we have today in the US Navy.

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:11 am
by Teaos
Its a practical ship but I find it ugly...

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:14 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I can see how it can be considered ugly. But for me, practicality has a beauty of its own.

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:01 pm
by SuperSaiyaMan12
I...don't understand the love for this ship. The only reason why it did so well against the E-nil at first was because it was caught off guard without it's shields up and Khan was in control. Over the years, it became Star Trek's TIE Fighter, being taken out in one or two hits.

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:07 pm
by Mikey
SuperSaiyaMan12 wrote:I...don't understand the love for this ship. The only reason why it did so well against the E-nil at first was because it was caught off guard without it's shields up and Khan was in control. Over the years, it became Star Trek's TIE Fighter, being taken out in one or two hits.
Hardly an accurate analogy. By the time the Miranda-class was as seemingly vulnerable as you say, it was over a century out-of-date. The fact that it was still ready for front-line duty, if unsuccesful, is a testament to the design - not a knock.

Re: Miranda Class Discussion

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:09 pm
by SuperSaiyaMan12
Mikey wrote:
SuperSaiyaMan12 wrote:I...don't understand the love for this ship. The only reason why it did so well against the E-nil at first was because it was caught off guard without it's shields up and Khan was in control. Over the years, it became Star Trek's TIE Fighter, being taken out in one or two hits.
Hardly an accurate analogy. By the time the Miranda-class was as seemingly vulnerable as you say, it was over a century out-of-date. The fact that it was still ready for front-line duty, if unsuccesful, is a testament to the design - not a knock.
You don't see the Excelsior being taken out that easily, do you? And its nearly as old as the Miranda-class.