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Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:32 pm
by Lazar
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The cat thing never made sense to me. Either it's dead or it's not.ot observing it won't make it any less ambiguous. It's just a lack of knowledge.
Or to look at it from a different perspective, imagine that you aren't observing the box from outside, but rather that you are the cat.

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:33 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Then you're either a living cat or a dead cat. Ooh, first-person perspective!

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:53 am
by Captain Picard's Hair
I think that's exactly what the "Schrodinger's Cat" paradox is meant to point out. :poke:

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 2:38 am
by Schrodinger's Hat
Wow... I feel like a schmuck. There's a whole welcome thread for me, and I only just noticed. *Coughs, bows* Thank ye, all... it's good to be here.

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:53 am
by Monroe
Welcome to the board. Nice hat.

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:53 am
by Teaos
And he appears, now we know he is alive and not dead.

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:05 am
by Tsukiyumi
Teaos wrote:And he appears, now we know he is alive and not dead.
Or is he? :lol:

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:11 am
by Graham Kennedy
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The cat thing never made sense to me. Either it's dead or it's not.ot observing it won't make it any less ambiguous. It's just a lack of knowledge.
The whole point of the thought experiment is that it actually isn't just a lack of knowledge. You'd expect it to be, because that's how the macro world works, but on a quantum level something really IS in both states at the same time. The SC is meant to show that the quantum world works really strangely and differently to what we expect.

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:14 am
by Sionnach Glic
Aye, it's one of those bizzare things that shouldn't make sense, but does.

Anyway, welcome. :)

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:23 pm
by Schrodinger's Hat
Tsukiyumi wrote:
Teaos wrote:And he appears, now we know he is alive and not dead.
Or is he? :lol:
Well, I've been observed, and I appear to be interactive... or have I been observed? I suppose that all that's really been observed are my effects in the form of my posts, so one can infer my existence and, I suppose, my life from them, but I haven't been observed directly by anyone on the board. Huh... am I alive?

:Q

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:56 pm
by Lazar
Schrodinger's Hat wrote::Q
You're learning quickly! Now, you just need to remember never to stay on topic for more than 5 posts.

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:00 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Lazar wrote:
Schrodinger's Hat wrote::Q
You're learning quickly! Now, you just need to remember never to stay on topic for more than 5 posts.
Yep, that's... Say, how's the weather been for y'all lately? It's been a gorgeous weekend here, though this abrupt change after the storm of last weekend might have led to my current cold. :mrgreen:

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:27 pm
by Monroe
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:
Lazar wrote:
Schrodinger's Hat wrote::Q
You're learning quickly! Now, you just need to remember never to stay on topic for more than 5 posts.
Yep, that's... Say, how's the weather been for y'all lately? It's been a gorgeous weekend here, though this abrupt change after the storm of last weekend might have led to my current cold. :mrgreen:

Its been great weather rescently but last night we got some hail. :(

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:39 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
GrahamKennedy wrote:
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The cat thing never made sense to me. Either it's dead or it's not.ot observing it won't make it any less ambiguous. It's just a lack of knowledge.
The whole point of the thought experiment is that it actually isn't just a lack of knowledge. You'd expect it to be, because that's how the macro world works, but on a quantum level something really IS in both states at the same time. The SC is meant to show that the quantum world works really strangely and differently to what we expect.

I... guess. *Shrugs* I guess I'll always be a macro kind of a guy. The cat can either be alive or dead, but not both. Unless there's a gateway to a parallel dimension in there. ;)

Re: Welcome Schrodinger's Hat!

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:42 pm
by Tsukiyumi
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:...The cat can either be alive or dead, but not both...
What if it's a zombie cat? :lol: