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Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:15 pm
by Mikey
Right. Most of these type of topics involve some sort of conjecture; in this case, there is really nothing on which to even base such conjecture. We can say that the Dom battleship looks like it would be unwieldy, but that would really mean nothing.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:01 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Exactly. Hell, even the fact that it looks unwieldy means nothing, as you don't need to be smooth and sleek in the vacuum of space.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:46 am
by KuvahMagh
Pretty much, it could be packed with Thrusters and Impulse Engines and only have basic weapons... maybe half the ship is empty space and its size is meant to intimidate while it sits amongst its own fleet.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:49 am
by Teaos
Case in point the Scimitar, one of the biggest yet the most agile ships out there.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:24 pm
by Mikey
Teaos wrote:Case in point the Scimitar, one of the biggest yet the most agile ships out there.
Really?
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Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:54 pm
by Captain Seafort
It was pulling some pretty tight turns for a ship that big - the 180 after coming out of warp for example. I wouldn't call it one of the most agile ships, but for it's size the ship's manoeuverability was good.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:54 pm
by Mikey
OK, I'd go with that qualifier.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:00 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Aye, one thing you can say about the Scimitar is that it was surprisingly maneoverable.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:59 am
by Deepcrush
*cough* FANBOY *cough*
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Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:59 am
by Sionnach Glic
What was that aimed at?
The Scimitar was pretty surprisingly zippy in relation to its size.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:39 pm
by KuvahMagh
I think that is what he is getting at, the whole ship seemed to be a fanboys dream from the 52 disrupters (of which we only see a fraction in action), its "perfect cloak", the uberweapon, the Warp Dragster effect, turning like a zodiac, and the overall size of the thing, its rather ridiculous...
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:48 pm
by Teaos
Yeah ships should always have a balance to them, thats what I was trying to get at when we were designing the Paladin, when you add armour you drop speed and agility. If you add weapons you need to increase the power supply of the ship which has several negative effects. Its something most fanboys don't take into account. There are so many crap fanships out there which are just a stock stardard kitbash ship, usually a intrepid with Sov nacelles, and with dozens of more guns and a far higher warp speed pulled out their arse.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:53 pm
by KuvahMagh
Teaos wrote:There are so many crap fanships out there which are just a stock stardard kitbash ship, usually a intrepid with Sov nacelles, and with dozens of more guns and a far higher warp speed pulled out their arse.
Not to go too far off topic here (when does that ever happen on DITL
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) but my personal favorite are the ones that were designed with a Miranda type Saucer and then a few years later they go back and do an "Upgrade" version, replacing the Miranda Saucer with a Sovereign, if no one knows what I'm talking about I can post a few examples lol.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:02 pm
by Teaos
Don't think I've seen those ones. I did see a fantastically crap one which was perhaps the worse cut and paste I have ever seen. It was pretty much a Nebula with a Intrepid and two defiants stuck on which could apparently seperate into MVAM.
Re: Sovereign-class vs Dominion Battleship
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:05 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I think that is what he is getting at, the whole ship seemed to be a fanboys dream from the 52 disrupters (of which we only see a fraction in action), its "perfect cloak", the uberweapon, the Warp Dragster effect, turning like a zodiac, and the overall size of the thing, its rather ridiculous...
Ah, understood and agreed 100%.