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Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:11 pm
by Sionnach Glic
My explaination for why they only send one Cube is due to the Collective's processing capability.
Look at your computer. If you have one program open, it works just perfectly. If you have ten programs open it works pretty poorly because it has to do so many more things.
I think the Borg are somewhat similar. There are simply so many of them that the Collective itself has slowed down. It would explain why Borg stagger slowly towards people and don't use weapons. It's also supported by the fact that Borg seperated from the Collective are much quicker and smarter.
The reason they sent only one Cube could be down to the fact that it's easier for them to operate in fewer numbers. They're alright controling one Cube, but it may be difficult for them to control ten at once.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:23 pm
by Mikey
Talos wrote:In answering MetalHeads question I am positive that a combined fleet of Feds, Rommies and Klingons would destroy the cube... any cube. I don't think it's posible to adapt to so many different kinds of weapons at the same time.
Probably correct, although I always got the impression that disruptors were simply lower-tech versions of phasers, and that a defense against one would probably be somewhat proof against the other.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:26 pm
by Thorin
It might just be the case that the Cubes sent to the Federation were actually super cubes. And that would perhaps seem like the case when you see Voyager and a bog standard Sphere last out against a tactical cube a fair amount of time and actually deal some damage
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Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:36 pm
by Talos
Rochey wrote:My explaination for why they only send one Cube is due to the Collective's processing capability.
Look at your computer. If you have one program open, it works just perfectly. If you have ten programs open it works pretty poorly because it has to do so many more things.
I think the Borg are somewhat similar. There are simply so many of them that the Collective itself has slowed down. It would explain why Borg stagger slowly towards people and don't use weapons. It's also supported by the fact that Borg seperated from the Collective are much quicker and smarter.
The reason they sent only one Cube could be down to the fact that it's easier for them to operate in fewer numbers. They're alright controling one Cube, but it may be difficult for them to control ten at once.
Very nice explanation and like I said everything can be explained (with a plausible explanation of course).
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:37 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Yeah, it's quite possible to explain most things we see.
I just tend to fall back on the default "they're morons" explaination quite a bit.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:40 pm
by Talos
Rochey wrote:Yeah, it's quite possible to explain most things we see.
I just tend to fall back on the default "they're morons" explaination quite a bit.
It's not your fault .
It's because of the incalculable inconsistencies and other almost impossible things we've seen all those years in the shows...
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:46 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Rochey wrote:My explaination for why they only send one Cube is due to the Collective's processing capability.
Look at your computer. If you have one program open, it works just perfectly. If you have ten programs open it works pretty poorly because it has to do so many more things.
I think the Borg are somewhat similar. There are simply so many of them that the Collective itself has slowed down. It would explain why Borg stagger slowly towards people and don't use weapons. It's also supported by the fact that Borg seperated from the Collective are much quicker and smarter.
The reason they sent only one Cube could be down to the fact that it's easier for them to operate in fewer numbers. They're alright controling one Cube, but it may be difficult for them to control ten at once.
It's nice to see you doing something other then blaming stupid writers for a change.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:11 pm
by Mikey
Be nice. Rochey's expressed that particular idea about the Borg a number of times here.
Besides, he usually says that the people in the show are stupid, rather than the writers.
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Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:03 am
by Teaos
The reason the Borg dont send a fleet is because they dont care. They will send a Cube if there is one around but in general they dont care enough.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:45 am
by Bryan Moore
In "The Drumhead" doesn't Admiral Satie say there were Klingon ships destroyed as well?
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:11 am
by mlsnoopy
Why the Borg don't send more than one cube. Becouse there was no need. The firs cube was destroyed by pure luck, so there was no reason for the Borg to belive that in a few years Sf would make so many advancments that they will be able to stop another.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:46 pm
by MetalHead
I like this idea about the "processing" thing.
The Collective asseses the strength and defensive cababilities of their target. They they determine what size vessel would be adequete. Looks like a single Cube wins out, however they underestimated Picard when he took command over Earth (First Contact). Otherwise I reckon the Cube might have made it into orbit properly. We do know the Borg can operate easily in fleets, ala Star Trek Voyager Episodes, so whats the probolem!! Meh.
I do believe also that Wolf 359 wouldn't have been a graveyard had the Klingons and Romulans lent support. Seeing the damage the E-D's phasers did on the initial shots makes me believe that Klingon and Romulan disruptors would be highly effective in the opening vollies, and the collective would become confused.
One thing that DID interest me though, is when the Enterprise used Photons for the first time, nothing happened??
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:48 pm
by Mikey
MetalHead wrote:One thing that DID interest me though, is when the Enterprise used Photons for the first time, nothing happened??
Of course, they wouldn't have been able to adapt to a weapon they've never encountered, but I see two possibilities: either there was no APPARENT damage because of the strength of the hull; or they had retrieved some info about PT's when engaging the E-D's computer and had developed a counter.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:00 pm
by Teaos
Uh... can you adapt to photon torpedoes? Its a big bang not an energy beam. Its like saying you adapt to a kick in the nuts.
Re: Question about Wolf 359
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:05 pm
by Mikey
Teaos wrote:Uh... can you adapt to photon torpedoes? Its a big bang not an energy beam. Its like saying you adapt to a kick in the nuts.
Not necessarily. PT's have a frequency which can be modified, per
Generations.