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Captain Seafort wrote:The Miranda always looked too flat to me, like there wasn't enough space to fit the warp core.

As for the most beautiful ship in Trek, how can you vote for anything but this:

Where is the warp core? Located in the rear, going top to bottom by the two domes?

The warp core in the refit Connie goes from the blue dome at the back of the saucer down the neck to the bottom of the engineering hull just behind the deflector.

Tiberius wrote:The warp core in the refit Connie goes from the blue dome at the back of the saucer down the neck to the bottom of the engineering hull just behind the deflector.

Wow, that seems just silly!

Tiberius wrote:The warp core in the refit Connie goes from the blue dome at the back of the saucer down the neck to the bottom of the engineering hull just behind the deflector.

No it isn't! The Connie's warp core is in the engineering hull, same as all other starships. The problem with the Reliant is that the main hull has about half the depth of the Connie's Engineering hull.

http://home.comcast.net/~thewoozle2/sta ... rprise.jpg

This seems to show the top of a vertical warp core starting at the dome on the back of the saucer and continuing down.

I know it's not a canon source, but if we limit ourselves to canon, enither of us can really show our claims to be valid.

This image also shows the warp core starting at the saucer. http://www.utopiaplanitia.info/ships/1701a/msd2.jpg

Ahh, like that. I was thinking about the core being further aft, a la the Galaxy, and sloping through the neck. That second one seems to integrate the deuterium injector with the impulse engines. The only problem I can see is that it might interfere with the saucer separation ability - they'd have to either cut the upper constriction segment in two, or lift the saucer vertically upwards, a tricky manoeuvre.

I loved the Miranda in TMP era... after that I thought it had far outlived its usefulness.

Indeed, it begs the question why Starfleet kept refitting the Mirandas with their limited available space through the 24th century, and not the bigger and presumably more effective Connies.

i too like the compact design and the miranda is one of my favorites, but i like the modern ships better, and would have to say the Nebula class is my favorite of those compact ships.

Captain Seafort wrote:Indeed, it begs the question why Starfleet kept refitting the Mirandas with their limited available space through the 24th century, and not the bigger and presumably more effective Connies.

A lot of internet sources answer this question by claiming a much stronger, more durable, and easier refitted space-frame with the solitary hull.

one of the best ships in trek history but shes getting old they have her replacement but any ship that stays in active service that long deserves the gratitude

Also liked the Miranda. A shame they were the whipping boys in DSN, but there's only so much refitting you can do to a ship like that.

I bet back in the day, the sight of one of her would've given the Klingons pause.

I liked the Miranda as well, but my favorite has to be the Excelsior class

Captain Seafort wrote:Ahh, like that. I was thinking about the core being further aft, a la the Galaxy, and sloping through the neck. That second one seems to integrate the deuterium injector with the impulse engines. The only problem I can see is that it might interfere with the saucer separation ability - they'd have to either cut the upper constriction segment in two, or lift the saucer vertically upwards, a tricky manoeuvre.

I don't see that as a problem, as there was one of the TOS era movies that had an isolation door come down through the PTC (I think it was ST II). They'd have some way of isolating it so they'd still be able to use the warp core.

Shame we never saw that done though....

Except in such a configuration the warp core, one of the most important parts of a ship, is too vulnerable to enemy fire if the shields go down. One torpedo hit and it's gone.