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Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:14 am
by Sionnach Glic
That David Brin guy is a moron. I've run across some of his stuff before, and he seems to be having a go at anyone whose works are more popular than his, including Lucas and Tolkein.

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:17 pm
by Mikey
Rochey wrote:That David Brin guy is a moron. I've run across some of his stuff before, and he seems to be having a go at anyone whose works are more popular than his, including Lucas and Tolkein.
Considering the fact that I'd never heard of him until now, and I am fairly well-read, I'd say the set of "anyone whose works are more popular than his" is a large set indeed.

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:46 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
I really really hate it when people clump Star Trek, or sci-fi in general, with fantasy series. I want to strangle people who do that. That kind of comparision can be made to any series. I could probably make fantasy look like sci-fi if I tried. (there's no such thing as magic :P)

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:20 pm
by Mikey
ChakatBlackstar wrote:I really really hate it when people clump Star Trek, or sci-fi in general, with fantasy series. I want to strangle people who do that. That kind of comparision can be made to any series. I could probably make fantasy look like sci-fi if I tried. (there's no such thing as magic :P)

Yep. Although I really don't have the inclination to strangle anyone, I could if I were so inclined probably draw parallels to make a cookbook look like fantasy.

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:57 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Indeed. Like it was said earlier: if you look hard enough you could compare sci-fi to anything.

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:16 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Rochey wrote:Indeed. Like it was said earlier: if you look hard enough you could compare sci-fi to anything.
Porn is like sci fi because... :angel1:

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:17 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Well, the ship is smooth, like a woman's body, and.......

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:33 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:
Rochey wrote:Indeed. Like it was said earlier: if you look hard enough you could compare sci-fi to anything.
Porn is like sci fi because... :angel1:
Well Picard did ram his long hard ship into the Scimitar :P :lol:

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:32 am
by Aaron
Mikey wrote: Considering the fact that I'd never heard of him until now, and I am fairly well-read, I'd say the set of "anyone whose works are more popular than his" is a large set indeed.

He's responsible for The Postman. Which while a decent movie is no SW, ST or Firefly.

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:05 pm
by Mikey
Cpl Kendall wrote:
Mikey wrote: Considering the fact that I'd never heard of him until now, and I am fairly well-read, I'd say the set of "anyone whose works are more popular than his" is a large set indeed.

He's responsible for The Postman. Which while a decent movie is no SW, ST or Firefly.
I wouldn't even consider it a Rollerball.

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:28 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Personaly, I thought that movie was pretty bad.

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:51 pm
by Mikey
Rochey wrote:Personaly, I thought that movie was pretty bad.
Do you mean The Postman or Rollerball?

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:57 pm
by Graham Kennedy
I've read a fair bit of Brin's stuff, I rate him as pretty good actually. His Uplift universe is a great scenario, and some of the books set in it are amongst my favourites - though some are decidedly not.

He doesn't get to decide what 'true' sci fi is, to be sure. He has as much right to his opinion as anybody, though.

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:58 pm
by Mikey
GrahamKennedy wrote:He doesn't get to decide what 'true' sci fi is, to be sure. He has as much right to his opinion as anybody, though.
No doubt. My only point is that he has no right to MY opinion.

Re: Star Trek is fantasy

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:30 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Do you mean The Postman or Rollerball?
The Postman. Never saw Rollerball.