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Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:18 am
by Graham Kennedy
All of which is why I say that we should us a little common sense.

Think about it. Do you REALLY think the intent of Star Trek is that these ships of the future should be limited to ranges far less than present day weapons? I doubt anybody can honestly say yes to that.

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:14 pm
by Mikey
Yes, but if we just assumed that the intention of common sense was behind all the glaring errors or nonsensical bits we see, what would we complain about? :wink:

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:32 pm
by Captain Seafort
GrahamKennedy wrote:Think about it. Do you REALLY think the intent of Star Trek is that these ships of the future should be limited to ranges far less than present day weapons? I doubt anybody can honestly say yes to that.
I've no doubt that the intention was that they should have spectacular ranges, and be invulnerable to all but the most powerful weapons. What we got was combat at spitting distance and ships in danger of being destroyed by the equivalent of a few kg of HE.

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:58 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Captain Seafort wrote:I've no doubt that the intention was that they should have spectacular ranges, and be invulnerable to all but the most powerful weapons. What we got was combat at spitting distance and ships in danger of being destroyed by the equivalent of a few kg of HE.
Please remind me to do my own math when I get my own show.

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:05 pm
by Captain Seafort
No. I might remind you to your maths though. :P

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:16 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Captain Seafort wrote:No. I might remind you to your maths though. :P
I'm sorry, not being British, I don't do "maths".

I do "math". :P

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:39 pm
by Captain Seafort
Mathematics is plural, therefore its abbreviation must also be plural. Simple grammar.

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:39 pm
by Nickswitz
Oh, but your using common sense. We're using american english... :wink:

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:43 pm
by Captain Seafort
Nickswitz wrote:Oh, but your using common sense. We're using american english... :wink:
You're using American. Whether or not it can be called any form of English is debatable. The English language possesses the letter "u" and is not obsessed with the letter "z".

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:59 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Nickswitz wrote:Oh, but your using common sense. We're using american english... :wink:
Exactly. As stupid as it is, no one over here calls it "doing maths", and they probably never will. *shrug*

Although, in the singular, it's a "mathematical" calculation, which doesn't seem to be plural.

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:01 pm
by Captain Seafort
Because a single calculation is (of course) singular. The discipline as a whole covers multiple areas, and so requires the plural.

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:23 pm
by Mikey
Right. You remember the letter "u" - where it isn't needed as in "cheque." And you don't obssess over "z" - even where it is indicated, as in "analyse." Yeah, you've got the monopoly on common sense in morphology alright. :roll:

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:39 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Captain Seafort wrote:Because a single calculation is (of course) singular. The discipline as a whole covers multiple areas, and so requires the plural.
Well, since I don't know the whole discipline, and only do singular equations, I stand by my assertion that I do "math". :lol:

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:53 am
by SomosFuga
In spanish you can use singular or plural: matemática or matemáticas. We usually use the singular.

Re: Trek Space Combat Ranges

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:37 am
by Lt. Staplic
french is plural, les mathématiques or les maths.