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The notched forward hull containing the vessel's navigational deflector and main sensors was a detachable single-use last-resort missile. This missile was equipped with a small impulse engine and a magazine with six torpedo warheads. These torpedo warheads were part of the ship's auto-destruct system and under more normal circumstances could be fired from the forward launcher. Any torpedo warheads left in the magazine would become the missile's warhead upon the missile's separation from the rest of the ship. If no torpedo warheads remained, then the missile would have to rely on kinetic energy alone. The ship would be unable to travel at high warp speeds without the missile since the latter contained the ship's navigational deflector.

Never heard of this before, i took it from memory alpha.

For which ship is this? Or the whole fleet?

That would be the Defiant.

So basically, it's a rack of missiles that flies around by itself, right? How utterly pointless.

It's from the DS9 TM.

thelordharry wrote:For which ship is this? Or the whole fleet?

Sorry. It's for the Defiant Class.
I wonder why they didn't use it in FC.

Dominic Keating had a brief appearance as a journalist in an episode of Inspector Morse.

SomosFuga wrote:Sorry. It's for the Defiant Class.
I wonder why they didn't use it in FC.

Quite possibly because it doesn't exist - the DS9 TM is non-canon.

Speaking of the Defiant's weapons, this thing has always bugged me: as far as I can tell, there are no visible torpedo launchers on the forward part of the ship. If you take look at where the launcher is supposed to be according to the DS9:TM (i.e. inside the deflector pod), or where the torpedoes appear to be firing from in the episodes (i.e. from the triangular notches on the main hull), it looks like there's nothing on the model that could feasibly be a launcher. Can anyone correct me on this?

Well in the scale of the ship a launcher port would be very small, probably only a pixel or two wide on screen. Of course you can also postulate that there could be some kind of armored shutter over the launch tube when it's not in use.

Tyyr wrote:Well in the scale of the ship a launcher port would be very small, probably only a pixel or two wide on screen. Of course you can also postulate that there could be some kind of armored shutter over the launch tube when it's not in use.

But I've looked around for closeups of the model, and I really can't find anything. There were some good model pictures that I came across a while ago that I can't locate right now, but for the moment take these ones on Bernd's site - the deflector pod is pretty obviously ruled out (there's no visible port or hatch, and I don't think the launcher would even fit in the pod), and if you look on the triangular notches, there doesn't appear to be anything that looks like an articulating hatch or shutter.

If you look at pictures of the Defiant actually firing its torpedoes, (for example here or here), you can see that they consistently come from the gap between the triangular notches and the rest of the hull. But this gap is just a crease between hull segments, and if you look at a good close up of the model you'll see that there is no way that forward firing torpedoes could be coming from this gap. Right now I don't have access to any video of the ship firing torpedoes, but from the screencaps, it looks like they just have the torpedoes magically emanating from the ship.

Lazar wrote:

Tyyr wrote:Well in the scale of the ship a launcher port would be very small, probably only a pixel or two wide on screen. Of course you can also postulate that there could be some kind of armored shutter over the launch tube when it's not in use.

But I've looked around for closeups of the model, and I really can't find anything. There were some good model pictures that I came across a while ago that I can't locate right now, but for the moment take these ones on Bernd's site - the deflector pod is pretty obviously ruled out (there's no visible port or hatch, and I don't think the launcher would even fit in the pod), and if you look on the triangular notches, there doesn't appear to be anything that looks like an articulating hatch or shutter.

If you look at pictures of the Defiant actually firing its torpedoes, (for example here or here), you can see that they consistently come from the gap between the triangular notches and the rest of the hull. But this gap is just a crease between hull segments, and if you look at a good close up of the model you'll see that there is no way that forward firing torpedoes could be coming from this gap. Right now I don't have access to any video of the ship firing torpedoes, but from the screencaps, it looks like they just have the torpedoes magically emanating from the ship.

Lighthawk wrote:

Lazar wrote:

Tyyr wrote:Well in the scale of the ship a launcher port would be very small, probably only a pixel or two wide on screen. Of course you can also postulate that there could be some kind of armored shutter over the launch tube when it's not in use.

But I've looked around for closeups of the model, and I really can't find anything. There were some good model pictures that I came across a while ago that I can't locate right now, but for the moment take these ones on Bernd's site - the deflector pod is pretty obviously ruled out (there's no visible port or hatch, and I don't think the launcher would even fit in the pod), and if you look on the triangular notches, there doesn't appear to be anything that looks like an articulating hatch or shutter.

If you look at pictures of the Defiant actually firing its torpedoes, (for example here or here), you can see that they consistently come from the gap between the triangular notches and the rest of the hull. But this gap is just a crease between hull segments, and if you look at a good close up of the model you'll see that there is no way that forward firing torpedoes could be coming from this gap. Right now I don't have access to any video of the ship firing torpedoes, but from the screencaps, it looks like they just have the torpedoes magically emanating from the ship.

It did in fact fire torpedoes...

Dude, they were beamed into space and THEN launched. By the Ferengi in the gorilla suit.