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Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:15 am
by LaughingCheese
Mark wrote:Don't turrets by definition rotate?
Good point...
stitch626 wrote:Its always been labeled as a turret in all of the drawings, but it has not been mentioned specifically as a turret in any movie.
That's why I called it a turret; I must've seen it called that on a drawing a while ago.

But yeah, if it doesn't rotate, why is it called a turret?!

EDIT: Holy cheese, this is my first intro thread to reach EIGHT (8) pages!!! :shock:

I love you guys. :mrgreen:

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:23 am
by Sionnach Glic
It may be that the exterior parts we can see don't rotate, but the tube itself does inside the casing. Observe the following picture, stolen shamelessly from earlier in the thread:
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Look at the picture, specificaly the black line thing on the front of the pod. That line is where the torps come out of. It's possible that the tube that fires them can rotate within its housing to fire out from any angle allowed by that line, as shown below:

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The tube inside may be able to rotate along the red marks.

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:38 pm
by Captain Seafort
The problem with that is that that black line thing is a probably a hole. Compare these two consecutive images:

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I think it's there to provide a line of sight from the yacht's cockpit, which lines up exactly with the hole when the yacht's docked.

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:06 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Hm, fair point.

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:20 pm
by LaughingCheese
So, where exactly IS the yacht?!?!?!?

YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:

Actually, I don't think that people realize that Federation starships are built in a modular fashion. On the large scale, we see it in the form of the Primary/Secondary hull configurations (saucer section/stardrive).

On a smaller scale, I believe I recall reading in the TNG tech manual that the bridge is a moduel itself and can be replaced for the mission at hand/upgraded.

I'm guessing the QT pod/turret is also a module, that is, and this is the crucial part, either a QT launcher OR a yacht dock.

Its been a LONG time since I've seen Insurrection, actually I think I may have seen it only once in the theatre, but, if memory serves, I don't think we saw the QT pod fire at all during that movie.

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:43 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I think the launcher was established to be there in FC. That would mean they originaly built the ship with the launcher, took it out and replaced it with a yacht, and then put it back in again.
While it's possible, it seems a little unlikely. Surely they could place the captain's yacht somewhere where it didn't require the most powerful weapon on the ship to be removed.

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:47 pm
by LaughingCheese
Rochey wrote:I think the launcher was established to be there in FC. That would mean they originaly built the ship with the launcher, took it out and replaced it with a yacht, and then put it back in again.
While it's possible, it seems a little unlikely. Surely they could place the captain's yacht somewhere where it didn't require the most powerful weapon on the ship to be removed.
Agreed.

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:21 pm
by Mark
Of course, these are Trek writers we're talking about to, so...................

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:56 pm
by LaughingCheese
Mark wrote:Of course, these are Trek writers we're talking about to, so...................
LOL :mrgreen:

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:00 pm
by Mark
The sad thing is that it HAS become a joke :roll: :mrgreen:

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:13 pm
by stitch626
If only they had moved the QT launcher a bit closer to the saucer, then we wouldn't even be discussing this.

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:59 pm
by LaughingCheese
Now that we have blasted off topic(like 4 pages ago), should the title of the thread be changed? :mrgreen:

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:01 pm
by Tsukiyumi
LaughingCheese wrote:Now that we have blasted off topic(like 4 pages ago), should the title of the thread be changed? :mrgreen:
Nope. :wink:

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:01 pm
by stitch626
No. Changing the title of a thread every time we changed topic would be insanity... and futile.

Re: Why does everyone love the original TOS Enterprise so much?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:02 pm
by Captain Seafort
And in clear violation of the TR-116 principle upon which the whole ethos of DITL rests.