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Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
Good samariatan laws? How do those work?
Look them up, you've suckered enough people on this board into educating you.

It's a trick question then. Both options would be helping the woman.
Hardly, you could choose to leave it be.

Edit: At any rate you are (as usual) attempting to avoid the issue. Archer could have provided the cure and flew off into the sunset, there was no reason to stay after saving them.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:
Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
Good samariatan laws? How do those work?
Look them up, you've suckered enough people on this board into educating you.
It's a good thing others aren't selfish with their knowledge, else we wouldn't have teachers. And I prefer to get different points of view on things, and this forum is quite diverse.

It's a trick question then. Both options would be helping the woman.
Hardly, you could choose to leave it be.
That wasn't one of the options you gave me.
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Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
It's a good thing others aren't selfish with their knowledge, else we wouldn't have teachers. And I prefer to get different points of view on things, and this forum is quite diverse.
Hardly, you proved rather decisively in the Doctor Who thread that you are simply to lazy to look up things yourself.

That wasn't one of the options you gave me.
Don't be obtuse, just because the option is not htere does not mean you cannot add it. :roll:

Edit: and once again you avoid the actual issue of this thread:

At any rate you are (as usual) attempting to avoid the issue. Archer could have provided the cure and flew off into the sunset, there was no reason to stay after saving them.
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Don't be obtuse, just because the option is not htere does not mean you cannot add it
It's wasn't the kind of question that suggested you could add a third option, or need to add a third option. The way you presented it was 'pick one of the provided answers'.
At any rate you are (as usual) attempting to avoid the issue. Archer could have provided the cure and flew off into the sunset, there was no reason to stay after saving them.
If they were acting responsibly they'd have to stay within range in case the cure had negative side effects. To my knowledge they hadn't tested this cure, so how could they know for sure it would even work, much less know the side effects
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Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
It's wasn't the kind of question that suggested you could add a third option, or need to add a third option. The way you presented it was 'pick one of the provided answers'.
:roll:

If they were acting responsibly they'd have to stay within range in case the cure had negative side effects. To my knowledge they hadn't tested this cure, so how could they know for sure it would even work, much less know the side effects
And then they could leave. They only asked Archer for tech when it looked like he wouldn't help them.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:
Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
If they were acting responsibly they'd have to stay within range in case the cure had negative side effects. To my knowledge they hadn't tested this cure, so how could they know for sure it would even work, much less know the side effects
And then they could leave. They only asked Archer for tech when it looked like he wouldn't help them.
What if it didn't work? What if it had severe negative side-effects? They'd blame the Enterprise for it.
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Blackstar the Chakat wrote: What if it didn't work? What if it had severe negative side-effects? They'd blame the Enterprise for it.
They'd blame Earth if they all fucking died as well, or found a cure after they left. They had the chance to render aid and refused, Phlox never mentioned it might fail and this shite in Trek never does. In any case such as this there is the chance for things to go disasterously wrong of course but by refusing to act they demonstrated that not only are they tremendous cowards but they made an enemy where none existed before.
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They'd blame Earth if they all ******* died as well
First of all the swearing isn't necessary. We're only discussing a fictional scinario. Second of all if they're all dead how can they blame anyone?
Phlox never mentioned it might fail
He doesn't have to, it's a given. Any idiot knows there's no such thing as a guarantee, especially in medicine.
and this shite in Trek never does
There's a first time for everything
but they made an enemy where none existed before.
Well, said enemy isn't warp-capable, as you pointed out, and would probably die before they became a threat.
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Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
First of all the swearing isn't necessary. We're only discussing a fictional scinario. Second of all if they're all dead how can they blame anyone?
They would leave records behind that if the Menk evolved past the barely sentient stage could read.

He doesn't have to, it's a given. Any idiot knows there's no such thing as a guarantee, especially in medicine.
You haven't seen much Trek have you?

There's a first time for everything
:roll:

Well, said enemy isn't warp-capable, as you pointed out, and would probably die before they became a threat.
There's a first time for everything. :wink: They could have cured it themselves and then told everyone passing about Earth being populated by giantic cowardly dicks, or left records for the Menk.
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Second of all if they're all dead how can they blame anyone?
Didn't someone in Germany say that 60 odd years ago...
What if it didn't work? What if it had severe negative side-effects? They'd blame the Enterprise for it.
So because their is no guarantee of success you don't try... how do you get out of bed in the morning... there is no guarantee that you won't be hit by a car... or that lightning won't strike you when you are walking...

I'll post it again since you missed it last time...

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They could have cured it themselves and then told everyone passing about Earth being populated by giantic cowardly dicks, or left records for the Menk.
I thought they were never actually told that the Enterprise actually had a cure. That would mean anything they said about the NX-01 and her crew would be speculation.
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Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
I thought they were never actually told that the Enterprise actually had a cure. That would mean anything they said about the NX-01 and her crew would be speculation.
And?
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Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
They could have cured it themselves and then told everyone passing about Earth being populated by giantic cowardly dicks, or left records for the Menk.
I thought they were never actually told that the Enterprise actually had a cure. That would mean anything they said about the NX-01 and her crew would be speculation.
That still doesn't change the fact that Archer, as a representative of Earth and its Government was willing to let the Species die off rather than giving it the Data it could use. They didn't even have to administer the cure to everyone, they could have provided the basic information and left, let the locals work out the problems for themselves...
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KuvahMagh wrote:
That still doesn't change the fact that Archer, as a representative of Earth and its Government was willing to let the Species die off rather than giving it the Data it could use. They didn't even have to administer the cure to everyone, they could have provided the basic information and left, let the locals work out the problems for themselves...
He's just trying to confuse the issue (yet again). Frankly I'm about five minutes away from trying out the boards ignore function, maybe we all should.
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KuvahMagh wrote:
Blackstar the Chakat wrote:
They could have cured it themselves and then told everyone passing about Earth being populated by giantic cowardly dicks, or left records for the Menk.
I thought they were never actually told that the Enterprise actually had a cure. That would mean anything they said about the NX-01 and her crew would be speculation.
That still doesn't change the fact that Archer, as a representative of Earth and its Government was willing to let the Species die off rather than giving it the Data it could use. They didn't even have to administer the cure to everyone, they could have provided the basic information and left, let the locals work out the problems for themselves...
And if anything got screwed up in the process Archer, and by extension Earth would be blamed for it, even if they weren't at fault.
And?
And what?
Frankly I'm about five minutes away from trying out the boards ignore function, maybe we all should
I tried that with you once. Didn't like it. And I think you're taking these things too seriously
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