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Re: Saber class

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:30 pm
by Graham Kennedy
mlsnoopy wrote:Thanks GK.
Mikey now I don't remember any of those other phasers fireing (if you have a screen shoot it would be interesting to see it). Until now I thought that the Gsc had only 4 arrays + the Venture 2. I was mistaken.

How many of them are there to cover for blindspots and would not be neede on the Akira beacuse there is no enginering section.
That I recall, we have seen the dorsal and ventral saucer phasers used. We have seen one of the little dorsal ones used in The Arsenal of Freedom :

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This clip shows the nacelle pylon arrays firing at about 35 seconds in :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdJpuyfJxks

I have a feeling we have seen one of the aft arrays and the engineering array fire before... but don't recall where.

Re: Saber class

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:16 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Have we ever seen the phasers "hidden" while the ship is in docked mode fire when the ship was separated, or the infamous "third PTL?"

Re: Saber class

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:31 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:Have we ever seen the phasers "hidden" while the ship is in docked mode fire when the ship was separated, or the infamous "third PTL?"
Well, we've never seen it fire, to my knowledge but we have seen it so we know it's there.

Re: Saber class

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:49 pm
by mlsnoopy
Againe thanks GK. Its always nice to see the GSC let it lose.

Re: Saber class

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:52 pm
by Deepcrush
I think the Akira was the most misunderstood ship in the fleet. No one uses torp boats and we always seem them trying to get up close. Which, seeing their armour and shields is just beyond stupid!

Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:33 am
by Blackstar the Chakat
mlsnoopy wrote: Ok half of these I can't even imagine where they are. and when have they been seen fireing. Could someone post a scheme of the GSC and mark them.
Here's one with the phaser arrays on the nacelle struts firing

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Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:58 am
by mlsnoopy
Deepcrush wrote:I think the Akira was the most misunderstood ship in the fleet. No one uses torp boats and we always seem them trying to get up close. Which, seeing their armour and shields is just beyond stupid!
Or that you are misinterpeting the facts. And the Akira is not what you belive it to be.

Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:00 am
by MightyDwarf
The Akira always seemed like a capital ship killer to me. With 15 PTLs it would certainly be capable of dealing some heavy damage to a Dominion Battlecruiser, before it would be forced to escape (or before it would be destroyed).

Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:56 am
by Sionnach Glic
Or that you are misinterpeting the facts And the Akira is
Given its armament, our conclusion of its role is the logical one.

Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:22 pm
by mlsnoopy
Given its armament, our conclusion of its role is the logical one
It may have 15 TT. That information is not canon. Even if it has 15 TT we don't know how many torpedos each is able to fire. It could be 1 or 12.
The we have ever see it fire is 4 or 5 torpedos. The logical conclusion is based on alot of unknown.

Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:37 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
mlsnoopy wrote:
Given its armament, our conclusion of its role is the logical one
It may have 15 TT. That information is not canon. Even if it has 15 TT we don't know how many torpedos each is able to fire. It could be 1 or 12.
The we have ever see it fire is 4 or 5 torpedos. The logical conclusion is based on alot of unknown.
There are several visable torpedo tubes. At least seven in the rolebar and at least one more on the underside of the saucer. As well as some on the port and starboard

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You can see 7 launchers.
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The side tubes

And evidence of the lower launcher being used

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Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:11 pm
by Sionnach Glic
It may have 15 TT. That information is not canon.
There was a thread on this before. The model showed 15.
Even if it has 15 TT we don't know how many torpedos each is able to fire. It could be 1 or 12.
The we have ever see it fire is 4 or 5 torpedos.
We see it firing a burst of 3-5 torps from one tube during FC.
The logical conclusion is based on alot of unknown.
Not really, no.

Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:50 pm
by Thorin
Chakat, all those pictures are clearly a fan made model, looks like Bridge Commander. Not really canon :wink:

Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:07 pm
by mlsnoopy
There was a thread on this before. The model showed 15.
The official model or the one that CB posted. Can you confirm that by screenshots from the show.
We see it firing a burst of 3-5 torps from one tube during FC.
Are you shore that its one tube. To me it looked like it came from 4 diffrent tubes.
Not really, no.
Yes. Becouse the biggest salvo you have from an Akira is 5 torpedos. From the way you are trying to show it, it should be capable of shooting something like 30-40 torpedos. But we have no evidence for that.
Chakat, all those pictures are clearly a fan made model, looks like Bridge Commander. Not really canon
:D

Re: Saber class

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:19 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Thorin wrote:Chakat, all those pictures are clearly a fan made model, looks like Bridge Commander. Not really canon :wink:
You'd be suprised at how low quality some professional work can be. And I've never seen a BC model that detailed.