I'm... somewhat uncomfortable with that episode. It damaged subspace... in an area already rife with instabilities. Then Greenpeace IN SPACE blew up her ship and ripped open that hole. Gee, what'd yah think would happen?Rochey wrote:Well, TNG era engines were supposed to damage subspace, so maybe they restricted their use in-system due to possible effects?I wouldn't say it's entirely senseless - depending on how the newer engines worked, they might to more damage. By having a much more volumous subspace field, for example.
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She was trying to make a point... Everyone was blowing her off because "the UFP doesn't make mistakes" so how could they be hurting something. By opening that riff, she forced everyone to own up.
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Yeah, but once that ep ended, there seemed to be no more problem with warp travel.
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Good ol' quantum.
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Retarded thing is, stopping at warp five shouldn't stop the pollution, it would just lower it, but over time it should still build up and cause damage.
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Since when did common sense figure into this?
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I think they realised that. I believe they were trying to buy time until they figured out how to fix the problem. They weren't trying to stop the damage, just minimalize it for the near future.Teaos wrote:Retarded thing is, stopping at warp five shouldn't stop the pollution, it would just lower it, but over time it should still build up and cause damage.
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aka the Warp 5 limit... There also seemed to be a stress limit so maybe there was a preset amount of Warp Stuff that would hurt space... If you weren't going fast enough then you weren't hurting space with it.
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But I don't think she got the point. I really think this sort of damage would've been limited to that area of space.Deepcrush wrote:She was trying to make a point... Everyone was blowing her off because "the UFP doesn't make mistakes" so how could they be hurting something. By opening that riff, she forced everyone to own up.
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I think they're position was the damage was not isolated, but it was more severe in that area due to high traffic or some such, and it threatened their home or something like that.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:But I don't think she got the point. I really think this sort of damage would've been limited to that area of space.Deepcrush wrote:She was trying to make a point... Everyone was blowing her off because "the UFP doesn't make mistakes" so how could they be hurting something. By opening that riff, she forced everyone to own up.
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Nothing like a person blowing them self up to make you think that they AREN'T crazy!
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Yeah, because people are going to take you so much more seriously if you blow yourself up. That's be like PETA blowing themselves up and everyone else ceasing to eat meat.
Actualy, maybe PETA blowing themselves up ain't too bad an idea.....
Actualy, maybe PETA blowing themselves up ain't too bad an idea.....
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I try in general to not apply my own particular "canon" or personal interpretation of onscreen events, but in this case it doesn't hurt my brain as much to just assume that what's-her-name's findings were checked thoroughly by Starfleet/the UFP and found to be wrong. It explains the subsequent complete ignorance of the speed limit, to boot.
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That's the only real explaination I can think of.
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I go with the "they found some easy to do modification that stops it" idea.
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