Just how did Voyager come up with the extra torps?

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Mikey wrote: But you guys do know that MM&I were being facetious, right?
It can be hard to tell in plain text.
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Mikey wrote: But you guys do know that MM&I were being facetious, right?
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I'm curious about something. If torp casings were "unable" to be replicated, why does everyone in the Star Trek franchise take use these valuable items as "coffins" for the dead? Wouldn't it be easier to come up with something else, that would be "replicateable"?
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Mark wrote:I'm curious about something. If torp casings were "unable" to be replicated, why does everyone in the Star Trek franchise take use these valuable items as "coffins" for the dead? Wouldn't it be easier to come up with something else, that would be "replicateable"?
Its not the casing that is supposed to be non-replicable it is some of the equipment inside, potential candidates include things likek the Warp Sustainers...
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KuvahMagh wrote:Its not the casing that is supposed to be non-replicable it is some of the equipment inside, potential candidates include things likek the Warp Sustainers...
It makes sense that it'd be the complicated gubbins inside that would pose the problem, but all we know canonically is that Voyager had "no way to replace [the torps] when they're gone". That could refer to the sustainer, the electronics, the casing, anything.
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It makes sense that it'd be the complicated gubbins inside that would pose the problem, but all we know canonically is that Voyager had "no way to replace [the torps] when they're gone". That could refer to the sustainer, the electronics, the casing, anything.
With what the show gave us its almost possible to disregard this line as an error, I mean I don't like to just toss it away but it was never a problem again...
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It was Janeway who made the claim, and she's a scientist with a track record of ignoring tactical regulations - assuming she didn't have a clue what she was talking about isn't a great stretch.
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Mark wrote:I'm curious about something. If torp casings were "unable" to be replicated, why does everyone in the Star Trek franchise take use these valuable items as "coffins" for the dead? Wouldn't it be easier to come up with something else, that would be "replicateable"?
Wrap them up in their bed and fire them out the airlock?
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Cpl Kendall wrote:
Mark wrote:I'm curious about something. If torp casings were "unable" to be replicated, why does everyone in the Star Trek franchise take use these valuable items as "coffins" for the dead? Wouldn't it be easier to come up with something else, that would be "replicateable"?
Wrap them up in their bed and fire them out the airlock?
Or just beam the body into space with a wide angle dispersion. Reduce it to its molecular level. Better than creamation.
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Mark wrote:
Or just beam the body into space with a wide angle dispersion. Reduce it to its molecular level. Better than creamation.
Yeah but the bed deal carries on the HORNBLOWER IN SPACE! thing that Roddenberry was working on.
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Cpl Kendall wrote:
Mark wrote:
Or just beam the body into space with a wide angle dispersion. Reduce it to its molecular level. Better than creamation.
Yeah but the bed deal carries on the HORNBLOWER IN SPACE! thing that Roddenberry was working on.
Ahh.....good point. And can always replicate more matressess as well, alot easier, I suppose :mrgreen:
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Mark wrote:can always replicate more matressess
Surely you mean hunt them or harvest them? :wink:
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Mikey wrote:
Mark wrote:can always replicate more matressess
Surely you mean hunt them or harvest them? :wink:
Do you have any idea what kind of rounds you need to take down a king-sized mattress? :P
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The mattresses usually don't put up much of a fight.
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Not true. Have you never seen "Attack of the Matresses"? You'll never sleep in bed again.

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