USS Stargazer

[Deepcrush]

The might as in the powerhouse of the US Army or the might as in the division of New York.

But either way, the US being held off by a country of equal size under the protection of the most powerful nation on earth at the time vs... England lossing to a group of colonies. Nice that you kept it so close together.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Ahh yes Crush. Tempers were indeed flaring. Even some light name calling as I recall.

And my conscious is completely clean for a change. The tempers and name calling was not started by me, nor did I participate in it.

[Deepcrush]

Conscious?

I don't understand...

[Captain Seafort]

But either way, the US being held off by a country of equal size under the protection of the most powerful nation on earth at the time

Britain wasn't involved in the opening phase of the war - the US army was kicked out solely due to the efforts of part-time local volunteers.

vs... England lossing to a group of colonies. Nice that you kept it so close together.

Colonies that had the support of the rest of the great powers. The most powerful nation losing to an alliance of the second, third and fourth most powerful isn't too shabby a showing.

[Deepcrush]

Britain wasn't involved in the opening phase of the war - the US army was kicked out solely due to the efforts of part-time local volunteers.

What do you think the US troops were?

PS, Britain was involved in the opening parts of the war. British troops raided a number of US towns on the eastern shore.

Colonies that had the support of the rest of the great powers. The most powerful nation losing to an alliance of the second, third and fourth most powerful isn't too shabby a showing.

We had the support of france but that came late in the war. England should have won the war long before that time. Spain came to war but wasn't really that interested with anything other then grabbing a little land. England misjudged the war and it cost them dearly. The same was the problem for France in the Seven Years War.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Conscious?

I don't understand...

I'm sorry did I make a typo?

I'm trying to say that thing that most people have that makes them feel guilty or something. I understand it might be an alien concept to you though

[Deepcrush]

I've felt guilty before, but just because i'm guilty of something doesn't mean it has to effect me in anyway.

[Mikey]

Conscious?

I don't understand...

I'm sorry did I make a typo?

I'm trying to say that thing that most people have that makes them feel guilty or something. I understand it might be an alien concept to you though

"conscious" means "awake" or "aware." "Conscience" means the part of the superego that directs us towards our morality.

[JudgeKing]

1812 - the might of the US regular army stormed across the boarder and was promptly sent packing by Isaac Brock and Tecumseh.

Those were Brits and Native Americans, not French.

[Captain Seafort]

Yep - that was in response to Deep asking when the US lost to Canada.

[Deepcrush]

That war ended in a draw, not a defeat.

[Captain Seafort]

That war ended in a draw, not a defeat.

The US failed to achieve its strategic objectives - the annexation of Canada. Therefore it lost.

[Aaron]

The US failed to achieve its strategic objectives - the annexation of Canada. Therefore it lost.

IIRC the US alos lost Detroit and had a fair amount of Washington DC burned to the ground and thousands of slaves lost.

[Deepcrush]

That war ended in a draw, not a defeat.

The US failed to achieve its strategic objectives - the annexation of Canada. Therefore it lost.

A failed advance doesn't mean defeat, it means you didn't achive a goal. That tends to happen in war.

[Sionnach Glic]

I'd call failing to achieve your objectives a defeat.