Romulans....what were they doing?

The Next Generation
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Deepcrush »

We all know I'm not the kind of person to insult other people for being stupid, dump, retarded, pathetic, worthless or meaningless in life. :happydevil: But sometimes I just feel this need to butcher the trek writers. :twisted:
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Mark »

Mikey wrote:
Rochey wrote:Hey, people have written stupider things.
Yeah, but they're usually the staff writers, not the fans. :P
Hey, both kinds of writers have taken certain....liberties. Another that I read had Sisko return from the wormhole to assist with the Romulan Civil Upheaval (directly leading up to Nemisis) at which point Picard introduces his first officer Colonel Riker, and his counseler, Colonel Troi. Stopped reading there. :worried:
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Sionnach Glic »

What the fraking frak?
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Deepcrush »

Well, now its time for me to kill someone... :happydevil:
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Mikey
Fleet Admiral
Fleet Admiral
Posts: 35635
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:04 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award
Location: down the shore, New Jersey, USA
Contact:

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Mikey »

I may not be the military historian that Seafort or Deep are, but those aren't even naval ranks, right? :roll:
I can't stand nothing dull
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer
Aaron
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 10988
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:01 pm
Location: Timepire Mobile Command Centre
Contact:

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Aaron »

Mikey wrote:I may not be the military historian that Seafort or Deep are, but those aren't even naval ranks, right? :roll:
What Colonel? No it's an Army/Air Force rank. Unless your in one of the more bizarre Asian militaries like the PLAN (Red Chinese Navy) who use a ridiculous Army rank system.
Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Mark »

Makes no sense, unless they eloped to somewhere like Bajor, resigned from Starfleet, and accepted commissions in the Bajoran Militia for the duration of the story. You'd think that people attempting to write a story in the Trek universe would at least know a couple of the basics
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Aaron
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 10988
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:01 pm
Location: Timepire Mobile Command Centre
Contact:

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Aaron »

Mark wrote:Makes no sense, unless they eloped to somewhere like Bajor, resigned from Starfleet, and accepted commissions in the Bajoran Militia for the duration of the story. You'd think that people attempting to write a story in the Trek universe would at least know a couple of the basics
There was a Colonel in ST:VI about who's job we know nothing and the Director (or whatever it was) that Sloan posed as who had the same number of pips as a Starfleet Captain.
Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Mark »

That's true. I'd always assumed he was in the Starfleet Marine Corps ( or the equivelent ), Cololnel West I think.
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Aaron
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 10988
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:01 pm
Location: Timepire Mobile Command Centre
Contact:

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Aaron »

Mark wrote:That's true. I'd always assumed he was in the Starfleet Marine Corps ( or the equivelent ), Cololnel West I think.
Well we already know that they don't exist thanks to Kirks line in TOS that they are a combined service.
Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Mark »

Yes, but things change quickly in the ST universe, right? Possible that when they switched uniforms again, between eliminating the Commodore rank, they decided to split them again. A Marine rank for an officer in a primarily Naval based system make more sense than it being a job title, don't you think?
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Aaron
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 10988
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:01 pm
Location: Timepire Mobile Command Centre
Contact:

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Aaron »

Mark wrote:Yes, but things change quickly in the ST universe, right? Possible that when they switched uniforms again, between eliminating the Commodore rank, they decided to split them again. A Marine rank for an officer in a primarily Naval based system make more sense than it being a job title, don't you think?
If there was some evidence other than a rank I could agree with you. For all we know different trades/corps have different ranks, ie: Colonel West could have been a security officer or an intel officer. Several Canadian Forces trades have different terms for the same rank: Signaller/Sapper/Apprentice for Private for example.
Mark
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 17671
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:49 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Mark »

Hmm...interesting point. Have to admit, I didn't think of that. Would make sense if he was Intel or Special Forces of some kind, since he WAS planning Kirk's rescue :teacher:
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Aaron
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 10988
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:01 pm
Location: Timepire Mobile Command Centre
Contact:

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by Aaron »

Mark wrote:Hmm...interesting point. Have to admit, I didn't think of that. Would make sense if he was Intel or Special Forces of some kind, since he WAS planning Kirk's rescue :teacher:
One of the "benefits" of having served in a military that used to be a combined service I suppose.
User avatar
KuvahMagh
Lieutenant Commander
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 856
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:30 am
Location: Canada

Re: Romulans....what were they doing?

Post by KuvahMagh »

Cpl Kendall wrote:
Mark wrote:Makes no sense, unless they eloped to somewhere like Bajor, resigned from Starfleet, and accepted commissions in the Bajoran Militia for the duration of the story. You'd think that people attempting to write a story in the Trek universe would at least know a couple of the basics
There was a Colonel in ST:VI about who's job we know nothing and the Director (or whatever it was) that Sloan posed as who had the same number of pips as a Starfleet Captain.
Its interesting to note that West wore the insignia of a Vice Admiral. In some contries though Colonel is used as an appointment, generally meaning the Head of a Unit, typically in a ceremonial fashion such as the various Colonel in Chiefs of Commonwealth Regiments. Its possible that he was in charge of some type of unit, possibly like modern Navy Seals since his role was to present a rescue plan...
There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.
-Elie Wiesel

Dreaming in Color Living in Black and White, Sitting in a Grey Day Leaning on a Bright New Tomorrow.
-Billy Ray Cyrus
Post Reply