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[Sionnach Glic]

Not at all. I recall one in the 1770s-1780s when we lost to the French for once, but no colonial defeats.

Ahem, are you forgetting your next-door neighbours?

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Didn't the british army lose a war to their own colonies in the 18th century?

Not at all. I recall one in the 1770s-1780s when we lost to the French for once, but no colonial defeats.

Ya...that's why the brits retreated from Concord Oh, no wait. The French weren't involved yet were they?

[Captain Seafort]

Not at all. I recall one in the 1770s-1780s when we lost to the French for once, but no colonial defeats.

Ahem, are you forgetting your next-door neighbours?

Didn't the british army lose a war to their own colonies in the 18th century?

Unless I'm very much mistaken, Wolf Tone lost.

[stitch626]

I forgot that the French sort of won something.

[Captain Seafort]

Ya...that's why the brits retreated from Concord Oh, no wait. The French weren't involved yet were they?

*Shrugs* Or Saratoga for that matter. They were mere tactical defeats, not central to the final outcome of the rebellion.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Not at all. I recall one in the 1770s-1780s when we lost to the French for once, but no colonial defeats.

Ahem, are you forgetting your next-door neighbours?

Didn't the british army lose a war to their own colonies in the 18th century?

Unless I'm very much mistaken, Wolf Tone lost.

What does an Irish rebel music band have to do with the Revolutionary war?

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Ya...that's why the brits retreated from Concord Oh, no wait. The French weren't involved yet were they?

*Shrugs* Or Saratoga for that matter. They were mere tactical defeats, not central to the final outcome of the rebellion.

They lost those battles, then they lost the war with their colonies. Sure seems to be connected to the final outcome of the revolution to me.

[stitch626]

Well, all I have to say (and no offense to any British people), usind red jackets in a green/brown forest or green/brown plains is a pretty bad battle tactic.

[Captain Seafort]

Well, all I have to say (and no offense to any British people), usind red jackets in a green/brown forest or green/brown plains is a pretty bad battle tactic.

It depends on what tactics you're using - against skirmishers it's a bad idea, but in the thick smoke of a general action bright colours were essential to preventing blue-on-blues. In any event, the British army learnt it's lesson, and so produced a counter - the green jacketed 95th Foot, later known as the Rifle Brigade.

[Captain Seafort]

They lost those battles, then they lost the war with their colonies. Sure seems to be connected to the final outcome of the revolution to me.

The war was abandoned as a result of the loss of Cornwallis' southern army at Yorktown. That defeat was largely due to the expertise of French engineers, and the presence of De Grasse's fleet in the Chesapeake interdicting Cornwallis' line of communiction and withdrawal.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

They lost those battles, then they lost the war with their colonies. Sure seems to be connected to the final outcome of the revolution to me.

The war was abandoned as a result of the loss of Cornwallis' southern army at Yorktown. That defeat was largely due to the expertise of French engineers, and the presence of De Grasse's fleet in the Chesapeake interdicting Cornwallis' line of communiction and withdrawal.

abandoned? That's an interesting way of saying lost, retreat, running with their tails between their legs. Although I suppose loosing what should've been an easy war would put me in a state of denial too.

[Captain Seafort]

abandoned? That's an interesting way of saying lost, retreat, running with their tails between their legs. Although I suppose loosing what should've been an easy war would put me in a state of denial too.

The North American colonies were operating at a financial loss at the time of the revolution, so Britain would have been better off abandoning them in the mid 1770s. The only reason we stayed on the continent at all was because the loyalists insisted on it. Even after the defeat at Yorktown, the northern army was still battle-ready, and the fleet was still powerful (Rodney smashed De Grasse's force at the Battle of the Saintes in 1782). Parliment simply used Yorktown as an excuse to abandon a costly war that would achieve nothing but the recovery of a liability.

[Blackstar the Chakat]

Parliment simply used Yorktown as an excuse to abandon a costly war that would achieve nothing but the recovery of a liability.

Whatever lets you sleep at night

[sunnyside]

I forgot that the French sort of won something.

The French actually used to be pretty tough. Though you could argue that's because of the infusion of Viking blood through the Normans

It's only been in the times after Napolean that they've been turning into limp wristed surrender monkeys.

Actually I googled "French military history" just to make sure I was correct about that and found the following, which I at least found funny. And confirms what I basically understood of the history in that after Napolean they begin losing war after war after war, often pathetically, and lose the Empire he had built.

- The Franco-Prussian War
- Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

- World War I
- Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States [Entering the war late -ed.]. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

- World War II
- Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

- War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

- Algerian Rebellion
- Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

- War on Terrorism
- France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

[stitch626]

Wow. I hope no one here is from France.
What I mean is, I hope (if anyone is from France) that they do not take any offense to our... um, opinions.

Lets blame something on Americans...

Discusting fast food, that's America's fault.