What would you take?

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat May 17, 2008 10:55 pm

Mikey wrote:The transporter is certainly the most practical answer, but the romantic dreamer in me forces me to say that I'd take the most taken-for-granted tech aspect of 'Trek - FTL travel.

I wouldn't say that's the most taken for granted aspect of Trek - artificial gravity probably is

Duskofdead · Post by **Duskofdead** » Sat May 17, 2008 11:36 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:
Mikey wrote:The transporter is certainly the most practical answer, but the romantic dreamer in me forces me to say that I'd take the most taken-for-granted tech aspect of 'Trek - FTL travel.
I wouldn't say that's the most taken for granted aspect of Trek - artificial gravity probably is

Wrong again! The most taken for granted aspect of Trek are futuristic toilets!

kostmayer · Post by **kostmayer** » Sun May 18, 2008 12:57 am

I pretty curious as to how they pee in those jumpsuits?

Some kind of transporter technology?

Post by **Teaos** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:25 am

I'd take warp drive if I got the stuff to run it as well.

If not I'd take a replicator. You could keep it secret where as a teleporter is a little obvious.

Duskofdead · Post by **Duskofdead** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:31 am

You could have everything to make that technology "work" the way it's supposed to, just nothing that would carry over and give you another technology. So you could have a computer that would run the warp drive but wouldn't do anything a navigational computer wouldn't ordinarily do by itself

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:37 am

Taking a warp core (and hopefully the deuterium converters would be included) would be pretty sweet. It would provide basically unlimited energy - todays yearly world output is about 15 TW - a warpcore provides a million times that - in usable form. It could potentially bring to an end world poverty. It'd be hard supplying the energy round the world, obviously, but it could be done.

And it'd put those bastards at British Gas out of business

Post by **Teaos** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:37 am

I'm think more along the lines of do I have a anti matter making factory. If I do sweet. That lets me run it and also gives me a kick arse weapon.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:45 am

Replicator or transporter, probably. Either a massive boost to the economy or...

Scratch that. I'll just go with the replicator.

Post by **Teaos** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:53 am

I know its cheating but you can tweak the transporter to make an army. Will Riker was doubled with it. If you can do that again...

KuvahMagh · Post by **KuvahMagh** » Sun May 18, 2008 2:05 am

I'm for Transporters personally, the possibilities are limitless.

As to the most taken for granted, I would personally say that would be the Inertial Dampers, we barely hear about them but without them every living thing aboard the ship would be turned to goo with just a 'minor' adjustment of velocity.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sun May 18, 2008 8:10 am

Thorin wrote:Taking a warp core (and hopefully the deuterium converters would be included) would be pretty sweet. It would provide basically unlimited energy - todays yearly world output is about 15 TW - a warpcore provides a million times that - in usable form. It could potentially bring to an end world poverty. It'd be hard supplying the energy round the world, obviously, but it could be done.

*Shudders* For starters a M/AM reactor isn't that powerful - it's TW range, no higher. Plus they have a nasty habit of going bang if you so much as look at them funny. In terms of power generation, I'd much rather have a bunch of nice safe fusion reactors - they'd still generate far more power than we're currently producing.

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Sun May 18, 2008 8:35 am

Replicators would make you rich in no time.

Post by **Graham Kennedy** » Sun May 18, 2008 10:38 am

Captain Seafort wrote:*Shudders* For starters a M/AM reactor isn't that powerful - it's TW range, no higher.

"TW range" covers a lot of terawatts, though. Voyager's core put out an absolute minimum of 5,000 TW.

Post by **Teaos** » Sun May 18, 2008 11:04 am

I think fusion would be better just for the fact that it is easily maintainable and could be duplicated easy.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Sun May 18, 2008 1:47 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:*Shudders* For starters a M/AM reactor isn't that powerful - it's TW range, no higher. Plus they have a nasty habit of going bang if you so much as look at them funny. In terms of power generation, I'd much rather have a bunch of nice safe fusion reactors - they'd still generate far more power than we're currently producing.

We went over this, and we got one of LaForge's comments that placed some plasma in the terawatt range - 1 TW to 1000 TW - which isn't the total output of the warpcore. We have a direct comment from Data saying it was 12.75 million TW. In fact this argument carried over into the shield strength, where you said that it was impossible for it to be that strong while a 500 GW beam could take it down (or whatever it was), while I said that 'Enterprise' could fire a beam from its canons that strong, before you start using that argument. As did I point out that 5000 TW (which is above the TW range, and in the petawatt range) was running through a random conduit on Voyager, too. As did the fact that the sensors required 5 TW to increase resolution a bit, and I somehow doubt that they took 20% of the warpcore power or something around there to increase resolution slightly.

Regardless, we have a non ambigious figure of 12.75 billion gigawatts. When put in conjunction with all the other facts, Data wasn't talking crap, as you so often like to presume.