Good Bad Ugly: TNG

Post by **Teaos** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:44 am

Ok the definitive what's good and what's crap about each trek show.

So we all have different like and dislikes about each series and the plots and characters involves in them. So you can copy/paste the following section and fill it out about what you do like about them.

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Good:

Average:

Bad:

Terrible:

Post by **Teaos** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:45 am

Great: The Crew. Over all the best crew. Picard, Riker, Data, all of them great characters beautifully developed. The interactions and plots and relationships formed are great to watch.

Good: The Klingons. TNG changed them from space Vikings to a more fleshed out interesting race. Q was also fun to watch.

Average: The Galaxy class ship. Ugly as sin but I don't mind the design ethic behind it as much as oh lets say Rochey.

Bad: The original Ferengi. And while not really bad the first two seasons were rather weak.

Terrible: Wesley Crucher. Need I say more.

Blackstar the Chakat · Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:05 pm

Great: Um...it revived Star Trek

Good: Q was interesting, Riker was cool. He should've been Captain. Geordi and Data were cool too.

Average: The ship itself. The rest of the main cast.

Bad: Boring story lines

Terrible: Wesley

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:09 pm

Great: introduces the TNG period...(Duh)

Good: Crew and their interplay

Average: Ship...As i have said, an IKEA wardrobe with kitchen rolls bolted to the side. Good tech though.

Bad: The introduction of Katherine Pulaski

Worst: With out doubt, Wesley...the little overconfident know it all...

Bryan Moore · Post by **Bryan Moore** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:48 pm

Great: Patrick Stewart

Good: The crew in general

Average: Use of the Romulans. They could have done so much more if they wanted to with these guys.

Bad: Seaspm 1 Wesley. I'd go Seasons 2-4 as average, as they toned him down a bit.

Terrible: Ferengi

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:12 pm

Great: The crew, and reviving Trek.

Good: The plots of most later episodes were pretty good, and Q.

Average: Aliens of the week, so much unused potential.

Bad: The first couple of seasons were pretty poor.

Terrible: I have a whole fracking list of things that go into this category.
The Galaxy class starship
Any starship introduced in TNG
Turning the Klingons into Vikings
Removing any military force from the Federation
The lack of inteligence displayed
The pseudo-communist Federation
The constant moral preaching
The Ferengi
The sheer stuidity of Starfleet's engineering
Several moronic episodes
Wesley freaking Crusher

Enkidu · Post by **Enkidu** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:25 pm

Great: The acting.

Good: Time taken to build characters and their relationships.

Average: The overwelming "eightiesness" of it all. The lack of threat led to a certain blandness in early seasons.

Bad: The characters that are built are all pretty much blandly perfect.

Terrible: The Flying Fatboy that is the gin-palace Galaxy Class.

Bryan Moore · Post by **Bryan Moore** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:21 pm

I never understand hating on the Galaxy Class

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:24 pm

Great: It got Star Trek back on TV after a gap of more than a decade, and suceeded in making it far more sucessful (and therefore likely to continue) than TOS ever did.

Good: New aliens - the Borg in particular. While they could be accused of being Cyberman knock offs, the basic idea was still sound, and the implimentation was good.

Average: The incresed dependancy on technobabble, which wasn't as bad as Voyager's, but still becoming a problem.

Bad: The powder keg warp core. The Communist Federation. Wesley Crusher - while he was hardly a shining example of a great character, he wasn't quite as bad as he's often depicted.

Terrible: Can't think of any. TNG had its bad spots, but I don't think any of them can be called terrible in the same way Voyager could.

Captain Picard's Hair · Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:44 pm

Great: Bringing Trek back to television, and in the process introducing a whole new age of Trek (in- and out- of universe). The acting of Patrick Stewart.

Good: The development of Data, Q, the original Borg, the development of the rich Klingon culture

Average: The great, fat looking, flying hotel

Bad: The early seasons, Dr Pulaski

Terrible: The amazing Boy God.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:27 pm

Great: Patrick Stewart

Good: Andreas Katsulas

Average: The rest of the crew

Bad: Roddenberry's involvement in the early seasons equals suck

Terrible: Anything concerning Troi, the ships mattress.

Post by **Teaos** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:13 pm

Bad: Roddenberry's involvement in the early seasons equals suck

I do find it amusing that they guy who created it is the reason it started so crap.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:26 pm

Teaos wrote: I do find it amusing that they guy who created it is the reason it started so crap.

I give him credit for creating the series but it seems he had little to no idea how to properly execute it. He had some pretty bizarre ideas that while sound good, don't really work out. And the few scripts that I've noted he wrote were utter crap.

While B&B ultimately ran the franchise into the ground, we should thank whoever replaced Gene during TNG for saving us from seven seasons of dung.

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:10 pm

Great: Galaxy class, Data, Nebula

Good: Klingons, Borg, Q, Picard, Riker, Geordi, Worf

Average: doctor,

Bad: Ferengi,

Terrible: warp core

Bryan Moore · Post by **Bryan Moore** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:16 pm

First warp core mention. Agreed on that.

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