Worst ship design in sci-fi?

Everything else
RK_Striker_JK_5
3 Star Admiral
3 Star Admiral
Posts: 13106
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:27 am
Commendations: The Daystrom Award, Cochrane Medal of Excellence
Location: New Hampshire
Contact:

Post by RK_Striker_JK_5 »

It's cool, dude... a lot of multiple posts from you in this thread, here... ;)
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Post by Sionnach Glic »

Geez, tripple post. And not the first one I've done today. What the hell is up with my computer?
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Post by Deepcrush »

Just thought about these, but they were such crap.

The Old Republic Dreadnaught heavy cruisers from Star Wars.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
User avatar
Captain Seafort
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15548
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:44 pm
Location: Blighty

Post by Captain Seafort »

They're ugly buggers certainly, but they can pack a punch - look at three of them holding down an ISD in DFR.
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Post by Sionnach Glic »

Yeah, not too bad considering how old they are.

Hell, two hundred of them can swing a galactic-scale war. :wink:
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Post by Deepcrush »

The ISD's weren't the greatest of ships anyways. That and even having good firepower doesn't help you if your ship breaks down so often that you spend a third to half of your time in repair docks. It only took one Mon Cal HC to stand boot to boot with an ISD. Over all they just failed. Massive crew needed, break downs more then often, one of the worst plot fates in history and just very poorly thought out.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
User avatar
Captain Seafort
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15548
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:44 pm
Location: Blighty

Post by Captain Seafort »

Mon Cals are far larger than Dreadnaughts, and are generally considered inferior to Star Destroyers anyway per Ackbar's statement at Endor that "at that range we won't last long".
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Post by Deepcrush »

Well if you are equal or close to and you're out numbered 2 or 3 to 1 then its a fair bet you wouldn't last to long. But from what I saw they lasted out pretty damn good. I only saw 6 mon cal's in ROTJ, I could be wrong but I thought that there were 40 ISDs there. The fact that the only mon cal losses I saw were from the DS2, makes me think that whole 'inferior' wasn't very well carried out. Also the MC's are far smaller then the ISDs.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
User avatar
Graham Kennedy
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 11561
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:28 pm
Location: Banbury, UK
Contact:

Post by Graham Kennedy »

I never liked the ISD design. Poor weapon placement.
Give a man a fire, and you keep him warm for a day. SET a man on fire, and you will keep him warm for the rest of his life...
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Post by Deepcrush »

Neither do I but I already threw a rant about the ISDs so I'll stay calm, for now. 8)
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
User avatar
Captain Seafort
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 15548
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:44 pm
Location: Blighty

Post by Captain Seafort »

What's wrong with the weapon placement? Each of the main guns is stepped outboard and slightly above the one in front of it, allowing maximum fire to be concentrated forward and above, and 50% on either beam. Sure it's got a gap in the heavy coverage below (a gap the Tantive IV exploited in the opening scene of ANH), but the ISD can roll quicker than an enemy ship could pursue that blind spot.
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Post by Sionnach Glic »

It's a fairly good design for what it does. Remember; at that point the Galactic Empire was the only major power in the known galaxy. The ships they needed were more for use against smugglers and pirate fleets and the occasional low-tech alien race. With all of it's weapons able to fire forward, it would be able to bring a massive amount of firepower to bear on anything ahead of it. Given that most of it's opponents would likely be fleeing the ship, having a lot of it's guns in a forward-firing arc is a pretty good idea.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Post by Deepcrush »

I still just don't like it. For all of the reasons I have said before. The ISD-II was a good jump though.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Sionnach Glic
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 26014
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:58 pm
Location: Poblacht na hÉireann, Baile Átha Cliath

Post by Sionnach Glic »

Yeah, the ISD-II kicked ass. :)
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
User avatar
Deepcrush
4 Star Admiral
4 Star Admiral
Posts: 18917
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Location: Arnold, Maryland, USA

Post by Deepcrush »

If only the New Republic could have mass produced MC90s like the imps did ISDs! That would have been great to see! Those are my favorite ships outside of the Venators.
Jinsei wa cho no yume, shi no tsubasa no bitodesu
Post Reply