Klingon knives

Captain Peabody · Post by **Captain Peabody** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:18 pm

Hmm... are you sure it was all weapons that were banned? The only diaulogue I can remember was that specifcally phasers and other energy weapons were... but I could be wrong.

Anyone know anything more about this?

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:21 pm

Odo's specific line in "Emissary" was "I don't allow weapons on the Promenarde - that includes phasers." This was after Sisko fired his phaser at a bulkhead to get everyone's attention in the middle of a dust-up.

Captain Peabody · Post by **Captain Peabody** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:32 pm

Ah, well... time to start Retconing, then!

Actually, all Klingon knives are naturally constructed out of Beridiumite Ladernum Alloy, which is natural subspace conductur that automatically cloaks it from all passive sensor scans.

Or maybe since the knives are so ceremonially important to Klingons, Sisko had Odo allow them?

Personally, I like the first idea better...

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:08 pm

Personally, I like the first idea better...

If that isn't a joke.....

Tiberius · Post by **Tiberius** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:28 pm

A knife is just a piece of metal. How can you detect for that? Any scanner that picks up knives will have to detect bits of metal, and that means it will detect anyone with any metal, include combadges, belt buckles, artificial joints, watches, tricorders, hyposprays, deodorant cans, and countless other devices. It's just not feasible.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:33 pm

Tiberius wrote:A knife is just a piece of metal. How can you detect for that? Any scanner that picks up knives will have to detect bits of metal, and that means it will detect anyone with any metal, include combadges, belt buckles, artificial joints, watches, tricorders, hyposprays, deodorant cans, and countless other devices. It's just not feasible.

It's perfectly feasible at airports today, why not on a space station in four and a half centuries?

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:02 pm

Hell... the last time I went to an amusement park, my (non-magnetic, non-ferrous!) BRASS Zippo lighter set off an alarm at the scanner. Even if MAD's and similar systems don't improve, the sensor/imaging systems and computerization in 'Trek make such scanners very feasible.

Tiberius · Post by **Tiberius** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:05 am

Captain Seafort wrote:
Tiberius wrote:A knife is just a piece of metal. How can you detect for that? Any scanner that picks up knives will have to detect bits of metal, and that means it will detect anyone with any metal, include combadges, belt buckles, artificial joints, watches, tricorders, hyposprays, deodorant cans, and countless other devices. It's just not feasible.
It's perfectly feasible at airports today, why not on a space station in four and a half centuries?

How many people today are carrying tricorders? And there weren't people stationed at each airlock x-raying everyone's belongings. And even if there were, they would be stationed in the docking ring, not on the promenade.

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:54 am

wasn't there an episode when someone steped through a door on the promenade and the thing started blinking and he had a weapon.

Bryan Moore · Post by **Bryan Moore** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:28 pm

mlsnoopy wrote:wasn't there an episode when someone steped through a door on the promenade and the thing started blinking and he had a weapon.

No no, that was just the last time I went to an airport dressed in middle eastern attire

Enkidu · Post by **Enkidu** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:39 pm

I saw somewhere about a year ago a trial of an airport x-ray scanner with experimental smart shape recognition software. I suspect they could perfect it in the next three or four centuries.

mwhittington · Post by **mwhittington** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:57 pm

They also have scanners that can see completely through all clothing, but not through skin, effectively making you "cybernaked", so they would be able to see any weapons you might be carrying on you.(uh, you might want to get that mole looked at, sir.)

Post by **Mikey** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:19 am

They're not quite that resolute yet...

Tiberius wrote:How many people today are carrying tricorders? And there weren't people stationed at each airlock x-raying everyone's belongings. And even if there were, they would be stationed in the docking ring, not on the promenade.

Almost EVERYONE today goes around carrying something that would trigger an MAD. And with the "invisible" internal sensors we've seen throughout 'Trek, coupled with the demonstrated abilities of computers, we wouldn't have to see or man any such stations or checkpoints.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:10 am

mlsnoopy wrote:wasn't there an episode when someone steped through a door on the promenade and the thing started blinking and he had a weapon.

The one with Tosk. O'Brien amped the thing up later in the episode to fry one of the Hunters.

And IIRC... wasn't there an episode with the Duras Sisters being held up because of weaponry? Early on, first-second season?

Blackstar the Chakat · Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:17 am

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
mlsnoopy wrote:wasn't there an episode when someone steped through a door on the promenade and the thing started blinking and he had a weapon.
The one with Tosk. O'Brien amped the thing up later in the episode to fry one of the Hunters.

And IIRC... wasn't there an episode with the Duras Sisters being held up because of weaponry? Early on, first-second season?

yep, all true.