Obama Releases Birth Certificate

[Graham Kennedy]

So here it is

The idiot brigade have, of course, already started saying "It looks fishy to me..."

[Mikey]

So here it is

The idiot brigade have, of course, already started saying "It looks fishy to me..."

Worse - Reince of the RNC is now saying that Obama is wrong for bothering with this silliness and should be concentrating on the economy.

[Captain Seafort]

Reince of the RNC is now saying that Obama is wrong for bothering with this silliness and should be concentrating on the economy.

Sensible attitude. I assume from your reaction that it's too much to hope that this gentleman doesn't have a track record of jumping up and down demanding said birth certificate?

[Mikey]

He represents the RNC, which is the aegis organization of all the people who did jump up and down demanding said birth certificate. Thus, the "bangwall" smiley. In essence, the RNC accomodates the birthers; and is now deriding Obama for satisfying their claims.

[Tyyr]

Releasing this required no real time from Obama either. It's the kind of thing delegated to an intern. It would have been nice if it actually shut people up, but it hasn't. There's just been a shitstorm all over the news for two days about it when all it does is prove that he's an American citizen.

[Mikey]

Indeed. Telling someone, "Oh, FFS just publish the thing" really doesn't take the sort of effort which would pull him away from his actual duties.

And, in the final analysis - if there really had been anything to the "birther" theory, then there were enough interested parties who would have had him struck from the ticket before the election ever occurred.

[Sionnach Glic]

The problem is that this is really not going to do anything for him.

Those who have been calling on him to release it aren't going to have their minds changed. They've already ignored so much that this is unlikely to make them drop the subject. They'll just start saying it's a forgery, or find some new excuse to cast doubt on his citizenship.

Meanwhile, from what I've heard, Trump has already been claiming this as some sort of victory. Making it out as though he forced Obama's hand, or some other such nonsense.

Still, at least it'll make the people who are still claiming that he's not an American look that little bit more insane.

[Mikey]

They didn't really need the help.

[Captain Seafort]

Every little helps.

[Sionnach Glic]

And the predictable happens.

This morning’s White House release of President Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate will, of course, do little to derail the “birther” movement, which will now analyze the document with the kind of verve previously directed toward those Texas Air National Guard memos faxed to CBS from that Kinko’s in Abilene.

So here’s a few nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers:

• If the original document was in a bound volume (as reflected by the curvature of the left hand side of the certificate), how can the green patterned background of the document's safety paper be so seamless?

• Why, if Obama was born on August 4, 1961, was the “Date Accepted by Local Reg.” four days later on August 8, 1961?

• What is the significance of the smudges in the box containing the name of the reported attendant?

• David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the document, died nearly eight years ago at age 81. So he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth.

• In the “This Birth” box there are two mysterious Xs above “Twin” and “Triplet.” Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?

• What is the significance of the mysterious numbers, seen vertically, on the document’s right side?

• Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: It is spelled “Ukulele.”

Yeah, as expected, they just found whatever reasons they could to doubt it's credibility.

[Captain Seafort]

Maybe the thread ought to be moved to "Humour".

[Graham Kennedy]

Funniest complaint I've seen so far? "It says 'African' and it should say 'Negro.'"

[Tholian_Avenger]

Funniest complaint I've seen so far? "It says 'African' and it should say 'Negro.'"

Assuming "Negro" was still in use. It's a subtle distinction but possibly they think Africans are born in Africa and Negros are born in America.
I've met a young black man who was genuinely shocked when he found out that Europeans were also "Whites". Meh.

[Teaos]

• David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the document, died nearly eight years ago at age 81. So he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth.

Convenient? I doubt he finds it convenient to die. How dare he die at 81... pretty sus.

[Graham Kennedy]

Funniest complaint I've seen so far? "It says 'African' and it should say 'Negro.'"

Assuming "Negro" was still in use. It's a subtle distinction but possibly they think Africans are born in Africa and Negros are born in America.
I've met a young black man who was genuinely shocked when he found out that Europeans were also "Whites". Meh.

I wondered if they just asked the parents what he was. Apparently Kenyans routinely call themselves "African", so it may have come from his parents. Or as you say perhaps somebody just thought "Kenya... African."

Whatever, it's hardly an issue that invalidates the birth certificate.

Funnily, a week before this happened I was in a discussion with some birthers; I kept posing the question "what evidence would you accept that he is American?" I got "the long form" as an answer and when I asked one why he would trust that it was genuine when he thought the COLB was fake, the answer I got was "I'd know if it was real because it would be real, and I'd know if it was fake because it would be fake." I went on and on asking him what differences he would look for, and every time, all he could say was he'd know it was real if it was real.

And NOBODY in that thread could give me a single thing they would accept as evidence without contradicting the reasons they'd already rejected all the evidence so far. Eventually I actually chased every birther off the thread by asking them.

It's really quite sad just how determined they are to believe.