Alpha SIM IC Thread

[Lt. Staplic]

How does this do anything to alleviate the fear of the interphase cloak. This allows us to recognize it's existence and do nothing about it. We recognize fully how something can be construed as a weapon regardless of it's intent. And we would like to argue that the device can no longer be used as one. Just the knowledge of a ship being phase cloaked does not mean that the ship equipped with it can no longer use it as a weapon. That said we do not believe the Federation would use it as a weapon, and also would be very happy to have this technology so as to quell any fears within our military, but the federation cannot claim that a phase cloak cannot be used as a weapon until a device is developed to disallow the use of it. Until then it has just as much potential as a weapon with or without knowledge of it's presence.

What I am offering is not knowledge of it's presence, but a devise that will detect the phase cloak. This should alleviate the fear of this cloak as a weapon, because these devices would detect such an action, and give forewarning. Take it if you wish, leave it if you don't.

We do find it curious and somewhat contradictory that you make the argument that this does nothing to alleviate the fear of the cloak as a weapon, yet you wish to acquire the technology to quell the fears of your military. Regardless, the information for this devise has been transmitted to the Sheliak.

[Reliant121]

The very principle of the cloaking device is to Render a ship undetectable, and in this case undeterred by solid matter. If the detection system can be used to find the vessel then it negates at least 50% of it's so called threat.

[stitch626]

I think I understand what the Sheliak are saying. With a standard cloak, if you detect the ship, you can fire on it and seriously damage it.
With the phase cloak however, you can fire as much as you want and the weapons will pass right through. So the ship can fly wherever they want and cannot be stopped.

While we re not concerned with this much, we can understand why others might be.

[Nickswitz]

The device itself causes the ship to be unimpeded by any solid object, including weapons. This means that a ship with this cloak may now be detectable, but they are still there, and they can still use their ship as a weapon by running it through a ship, or through a station and there is nothing that we could do about it no matter what knowledge we have of it.

I do find it curious and somewhat contradictory that you make the argument that this does nothing to alleviate the fear of the cloak as a weapon, yet you wish to acquire the technology to quell the fears of your military.

Our military likes knowledge, no matter how much lack of knowledge we may have, we still have some knowledge. We know that there is a way to detect these cloaks, and then we know to broadcast a message on all frequencies to allow them to know we kno whey are there and to dissuade them from attacking. Other than that, there is nothing we could do. So the device is not useless, but nor is it a be-all end-all to the arguement of the cloak being a weapon of mass destruction.

[BigJKU316]

The FKI continues to learn more about the Federation in general and Hewmons in particular. We had not expected someone to pay dearly for such technology only to give it away for nothing. We have taken note of this hole in our contracts and will correct for it in the future.

As to the Phase Cloak in particular we believe the perceived threat here is vastly exaggerated. It is not like the Shelliak weapon, which was a WMD. Simply put if a user wished to use ships as suicide weapons they could just as well fly at high speed into a station or another ship. One could easily hit a station at warp speed if so desired.

This is the nature of technological development. The FKI however is more than happy to continue to work in this field and sell the technology to others for obscene profit. If only the allies had been so lazy when faced with the Dominion Polaron beams and sat on their hands crying rather than solving the problem just think of the profit we could have made.

[Nickswitz]

No, they could not, our ships could easily detect it and possibly destroy it given enough warning, and as well as that the exterior hull of all of our bases are so thick that just ramming it, even at high warp, will not cause it's immediate destruction. However, flying a phased cloaked ship, even a small science vessel into the main reactor of one would cause it's immediate destruction. So yes, it could very well be much more destructive than you seem to recognize. Although not so dangerous in the hands of most Federation captains, some who may wish to severely damage any number of species could inflict great damage on them by commandeering even a small vessel with the phase cloak.

[Mark]

As a result of hostile action taken against the Cardassian Union and United Federation of Planets by the Talarian government, military action will be forthcoming. Attacks against civillian freighters will no longer be tolerated. Let this serve as an example to those who would take innocent Cardassian lives.

[Reliant121]

The Turei Star Empire has decided to place the Ra'naat class medium cruiser design upon the export market. She features a CR of roughly 3500 and a maximum warp speed of warp 9.9 as well as a heavy torpedo armament.

The design has already been submitted to the Cardassian Union. Any inquiries must be conducted on a private channel.

[Lt. Staplic]

Urgent Communication from the Office of the President of the United Federation of Planets

Hello to my fellow national leaders across the quadrant. I speak to you directly today with the wish that I had better news. It appears our worst fears have finally been realized. Scouts dispatched by the Commander of the Anti-Borg Task Force have returned with disturbing news.

The Hur'q are coming.

They are presently 1 year from the wormhole at their best speed, but are moving at a constant rate toward it. we are unaware as to what made them aware of the wormholes presence or even if they are aware of it. However the threat level remains the same.

I have been handed a notification form the office of Borg Affairs, directly from the Commander of the ABTF. He will be calling an emergency meeting of his two secondary officers, as well as the Chief Military Officer of the Gorn Hegemony to begin discussing plans and contingencies for the situation.

We are attempting to keep the situation private and away from the public to prevent a panic, we would appreciate if this information remains classified in all of our governments.

The ABTF is also looking for an increase in ship deployments to the wormhole force. All Battle-plans will have to be made in accordance with the wormhole force we can assemble. For the emergency status we find ourselves in currently the 6 month notification to join has been waved to 1 month, and the notification to leave has been extended to 14 months.

We will keep you updated as we get more information.

[Reliant121]

While our knowledge of the Hur'q is limited, we believe that it is necessary to support the quadrant as a whole in this matter. We will muster what ships we can, and notify the ABTF of our deployment.

We have argued, conflicted and taken a hostile seat to many a nation in the galaxy and no longer. We will muster the fleet within a month, and notify the ABTF commander that we wish to assist.

As for classification, I am not at liberty to make that choice. I must put it forward to the senate. I have a hard time believing they will allow it to remain secret, but what does it matter? The Turei people are happy to ride to war, if that war means the salvation of a quadrant.

[Mark]

Cardassia will begin plans to reassign a number of ships to the ABTF.

[Deepcrush]

The Klingon Empire respects the issue currently at hand. However, the Klingon Empire also withdrew from the Anti-Borg Task Force and is currently handling a few internal matters. We will send reinforcements to the Gorn border, but will not cross into Gorn space.

[Tsukiyumi]

As the Breen are still members of the ABTF, we will send reinforcements within the month along our predetermined route. We also wish to withdraw our Destroyer designs to KFI space for scrap, as they are practically useless in this situation, and will only provide the Hur'q with more material. We will withdraw our Mk II Battlecruisers as well. We wish to discuss battle plans well in advance of the actual incursion.

[Lt. Staplic]

As the Breen are still members of the ABTF, we will send reinforcements within the month along our predetermined route. We also wish to withdraw our Destroyer designs to KFI space for scrap, as they are practically useless in this situation, and will only provide the Hur'q with more material. We will withdraw our Mk II Battlecruisers as well. We wish to discuss battle plans well in advance of the actual incursion.

As soon as a course of action has been determined, a general briefing will follow, with discussion as needed.

[Tsukiyumi]

Very well. The new forces to be deployed are as follows:

10 Dominion Dreadnoughts

25 Breen Battleships

90 Torpedo Cruisers

75 Mk III Battlecruisers

If more forces are needed, we can discuss it before the enemy arrives. Does the Federation possess any solid intel on the Hur'q fleet's numbers?