Alpha SIM IC Thread

[Lt. Staplic]

There is no rebellion here.

When the current head of the Turei Star Empire decided to take his power by force, approximately 5 billion Turei citizens fled as refugees from the regime change and into the Federation. Once here they asked an audience of the National Government to whom they pleaded their case. They did not wish to return to the Empire, as they saw it as an illegitimate corrupt use of power, but they also did not wish to assimilate into the Federation.

Therefore the Federation allowed them to pick a planet that has already had the beginning infrastructure laid down upon it for them to rebuild their society. They chose planet 313. The Turei Alliance is a sovereign state, and in their mind, the true government of the Turei, they do not wish conflict only for the current Turei Empire to release it's clutch on the people and return their society to democracy.

I do not wish to pass judgement, condone, or condemn any of the actions above, I am simply listing facts.

[Mark]

Cardassia fully understands what it is like to attempt to rebuild from the ashes. As such, if you would be willing to accept this gift, the Cardassian Union would be honored to transfer 10 of our Zeu'tor class starships to your government, to aid in establishing your own defense force.

Then it is Cardassia's wish to interfere in an internal matter of the Turei and support rebellion?

Are the Klingons HONESTLY going to attempt to criticize the Cardassian Union of supporting rebellion after the Empire provided the KFI with an entire fleet, with which was used to overthrow the former legitimate government of the Ferengi Republic? We are offering to aid the legitimate government and displaced refugees in defending a new world they are being forced to settle.

[Reliant121]

Quite frankly, I could not care what ships the Cardassian Union sends to support the free nation.


To the Restored Assembly, we have tried to be more than reasonable but you are not helping. You have one chance to accept a position as a separate sovereign entity, or we will be forced to treat you as dissidents and dissidents alone. I am going on a limb here, I'm trying to save you from unnecessary bloodshed and put my own neck on the line to do it. Don't give a reason for the Praetor to truly loose his patience, I beg of you.

To all other races, you may consider your meddling "righteous" and "just", or "humanitarian". It does not matter. This matter is entirely internal to our own race. You have no right to interfere in our races politics.

As to the Romulan cancellation of trade, we will divert the goods necessary to one of our allies for this year. We believe this matter shall be dealt with within that year, and in the next trade will recontinue if you wish it.

[Lt. Staplic]

If this was a true internal matter, then the new state wouldn't be based around a world that was going to be a Federation colony.

[Reliant121]

Ah, I stand corrected. It WAS an internal affair before the Federation decided it would all so kindly interfere in our affairs. it WAS our business. What right have you to force it to be yours?

[Lt. Staplic]

Ah, I stand corrected. It WAS an internal affair before the Federation decided it would all so kindly interfere in our affairs. it WAS our business. What right have you to force it to be yours?

Well when 5 billion citizens came pouring across our border in fear of their lives, my choice to get involved in the matter got made for me pretty quick.

[Reliant121]

That would be reason to grant asylum, that would be right to give them home and shelter. That is not reason to install a separate government and literally create a rebel faction among our species.

Enough talk. They have received their ultimatum. They accept their separate sovereign state, or they shall be considered enemies of the state and will be dealt with accordingly.

[BigJKU316]

*Communication Restored Tueri Assembly*

To those nations that have expressed support, while we thank the various nations for their support we do not ask for it and will not see the region drawn into further bloodshed on our behalf. We ask you do nothing further. We passed into Federation space in our of fear and they graciously supplied us with a world on which to live while we await the deliverance of our people. We wish nothing further from them or any other power. The Praetor is our tyrant, and this is our fight.

To the illegitimate ruler of the so called Tueri Star Empire....we have already seen the results of your temper when you slaughterer millions of citizens when their only offense was attempting to exercise their authority under our longheld system of government. We have made no threat against you and have simply called upon you to do what is right and relinquish power.

Do what you must. We will resist you as best as our own limited means allow if you strike at us and by doing so publicly you will only ensure your own eventual demise.

[Reliant121]

-from the praetor-

You lost your claim to our government the moment you ran from our space.

The reformation occurred with the intention of streamlining executive power. For centuries our nation has rotted and decayed under layers of bureaucracy, we have laid dormant while our planet is stripped of any shred of honour by stinking rich merchants wallowing in their lavish affluence. The world was a bureaucratic mess of red tape, created by the merchant castes to stop anything from ever happening. Our traditional way had left us devoid of purpose, devoid of any clear power and allowed our world to degenerate into a quagmire of lavish filth. Prostitution, slavery, all symptoms of a stinking rich society that had been allowed to wallow in the festering pits of its own excesses.

The Reformation cured our world of that. You are the last vestiges of a plague upon our people, a disease of decadence and opulence that makes me sick to the stomach.

[Deepcrush]

There is no rebellion here.

If they are acting outside of their government, then that is rebellion. The leadership has not changed, only the form to which it leads. If the Federation is accepting these rebels into their space and allowing them to push their plans of taking power in the Turei, then the Federation is intent on interfering in the internal affairs of others.

Are the Klingons HONESTLY going to attempt to criticize the Cardassian Union of supporting rebellion after the Empire provided the KFI with an entire fleet, with which was used to overthrow the former legitimate government of the Ferengi Republic? We are offering to aid the legitimate government and displaced refugees in defending a new world they are being forced to settle.

Legitmate, how are a bunch of traitors the legitimate government when the ruling party of the Turei has not changed. Your ignorance is as present as always. They could be refugees if you accepted them to your space as your own... but you have not. You have instead offered to arm them and risk the very thing you blame the Klingon Empire for. Minus the funds used to purchase the ships from us was that of the Ferengi Government itself. We armed the Ferengi, that their own government decided to fall to civil war is an internal matter and non of our concern.

It would be a nice change of pace for the Federation and its puppets to have the courage to speak their intentions without lies and misdirection.

[BigJKU316]

If they are acting outside of their government, then that is rebellion. The leadership has not changed, only the form to which it leads. If the Federation is accepting these rebels into their space and allowing them to push their plans of taking power in the Turei, then the Federation is intent on interfering in the internal affairs of others.

But there has been a change of leadership. Where the people led before through their representatives a dicator leads now. If there has in fact been a rebellion is was the current leader rebelling against the system of government he had sworn to uphold and indeed using the very organs of that government against the representatives of the people.

The government is different from the leadership. It is the leadership that is acting outside of the established government leaving the people with no other option but to reform their government in a different location.

We beg of other governments, do not insert yourselves into this crisis on our behalf. Nothing good can come from it. A dicator sits where you cannot go. Even if there is a region-wide war the means for us to restore ourselves do not yet exist. We will not see billions killed in a war that will not restore our Republic.

The facts as they are are quite clear.

1. The present leader made a decision the representative body disagreed with and they moved through the legal and established process to remove him from authority and replace him with someone else.

2. The present leader decided to use the military to thrwat the will of the people, as expressed through their representatives.

3. Millions of our citizens are now dead and our government, built up over many decades is shattered.

We refuse to recognize that government as legitimate. That will be our position until we acheive a rightful restoration or until we can no longer draw breath.

[Deepcrush]

All of this sounds like nothing more then rebel nonsense, a sack of defeated money bigits looking to buy pity from everyone through propoganda. The House of Duras in the Klingon Empire was the same way and in the end suffered for their crimes as you have. You are fools, worse then that you are traitors to your race. You have abandoned your homes and fled whimpering to another power all the while pretending you want nothing while taking an entire world and now arming and denouncing your rightful leaders since they won't fill your pockets anymore. Even the Ferengi were willing to stand and fight which speaks only low of you.

[Reliant121]

You have proven yourself Completely unwilling to cooperate with our government and our requests. Your decadent wastes have infected our world, And now you cannot accept the wastes of the former government. You are a festering pit of traitors, an infestation among our peoples and I have finally lost my patience.

You have sealed your fate. Retribution shall be swift, decisive and the sword of vengeance will spare no man.

[BigJKU316]

All of this sounds like nothing more then rebel nonsense, a sack of defeated money bigits looking to buy pity from everyone through propoganda. The House of Duras in the Klingon Empire was the same way and in the end suffered for their crimes as you have. You are fools, worse then that you are traitors to your race. You have abandoned your homes and fled whimpering to another power all the while pretending you want nothing while taking an entire world and now arming and denouncing your rightful leaders since they won't fill your pockets anymore. Even the Ferengi were willing to stand and fight which speaks only low of you.

We no more care for a lecture from you on the principals of representative government than you would care to hear our opinions on your system of government, though it is an interesting mental exercise on your part that brands the citizen turned into a subject a traitor to ones race and the elected leader turned dicator the rightful government of the same.

Had we had the means to resist we would have. We had no weapons and no warning. We are not seeking weapons now and have turned down all request to receive them. We have said repeatedly we do not wish to fight. We only ask for the rightful restoration of our government.

[Reliant121]

Request denied.