Alpha SIM IC Thread

[BigJKU316]

Yet another round of accusations and rhetoric from the Federation and it's allies.

We dislike the idea of something as potentially destabilizing as a planet-killing device as well; however, we agree with our Romulan, Turei and Klingon counterparts that this weapon system is no more of a threat than a fleet of phase-cloaked Federation warships, which could literally drop heavy elements into a star as they passed through it, and leave no evidence of their involvement in its eventual destruction.

The very fact that the Sheliak announced their operation suggests that they are willing to be open about the testing of this device, and now they have decided to end it's deployment. We also wish to see the details of the testing, but we will not call for them to release sensitive internal operational materials to every power in the region.

The Shelliak did not announce their operation and saying so is nothing but a lie that cast a pall on your ability to be objective Mr. Ambassador. They in fact denied it was a weapon when first confronted about it not more than a few hours ago.

And the FKI grows sick of the constant fighting between the Breen-Klingon Alliance and the Federation-Cardassian-Gorn Alliance. The facts of the matter here are simple. A power elected to detonate a weapon of mass destruction on the border of three other powers. This is wrong and should be treated as such.

Can we spare ourselves another round of accusations. The Klingons killed billions of Romulans in a war. The Breen just recently slaughtered innocent traders. The Cardassians launched an unprovoked war against a small power. We have heard this all to no end. None of it has anything to do with the present issue at hand.

These weapons ought not exist among civilized powers and we do not believe for a second that had such a detonation occurred on either Klingon or Breen borders that you would have taken it passively. Indeed the location of such a test is wholly irrelevant.

[Mark]

So Ambassadors, what your saying is that you approve of the development of weapons of mass destruction, because a fleet of ships could concievably cause similar damage? Am I understanding your arguement?

[Tsukiyumi]

The Shelliak did not announce their operation and saying so is nothing but a lie that cast a pall on your ability to be objective Mr. Ambassador. They in fact denied it was a weapon when first confronted about it not more than a few hours ago.

And the FKI grows sick of the constant fighting between the Breen-Klingon Alliance and the Federation-Cardassian-Gorn Alliance. The facts of the matter here are simple. A power elected to detonate a weapon of mass destruction on the border of three other powers. This is wrong and should be treated as such.

Can we spare ourselves another round of accusations. The Klingons killed billions of Romulans in a war. The Breen just recently slaughtered innocent traders. The Cardassians launched an unprovoked war against a small power. We have heard this all to no end. None of it has anything to do with the present issue at hand.

These weapons ought not exist among civilized powers and we do not believe for a second that had such a detonation occurred on either Klingon or Breen borders that you would have taken it passively. Indeed the location of such a test is wholly irrelevant.

The Sheliak announced their operation shortly after it occurred. They could easily have dismissed the incident, and moved on. The device clearly has applications as both a weapon and a means of terraforming. We stated that we also have concerns about the applications of such a device, and believe inspection is in order.

To be honest, we believe the FKI ambassador is putting the interests of profit over the interests of safety and stability in the region. This incident happened on the border of our Turei allies, and as such, is considered by us to be the same as a detonation on our border.

Do not presume to know our motivations or reasoning, ambassador.

[Tsukiyumi]

So Ambassadors, what your saying is that you approve of the development of weapons of mass destruction, because a fleet of ships could concievably cause similar damage? Am I understanding your arguement?

A fleet of modern warships could most certainly cause damage on this scale, within a few minutes. With the Federation's phase cloaking ability, they could do so far more efficiently than sending a rigged freighter.

[BigJKU316]

The Shelliak did not announce their operation and saying so is nothing but a lie that cast a pall on your ability to be objective Mr. Ambassador. They in fact denied it was a weapon when first confronted about it not more than a few hours ago.

And the FKI grows sick of the constant fighting between the Breen-Klingon Alliance and the Federation-Cardassian-Gorn Alliance. The facts of the matter here are simple. A power elected to detonate a weapon of mass destruction on the border of three other powers. This is wrong and should be treated as such.

Can we spare ourselves another round of accusations. The Klingons killed billions of Romulans in a war. The Breen just recently slaughtered innocent traders. The Cardassians launched an unprovoked war against a small power. We have heard this all to no end. None of it has anything to do with the present issue at hand.

These weapons ought not exist among civilized powers and we do not believe for a second that had such a detonation occurred on either Klingon or Breen borders that you would have taken it passively. Indeed the location of such a test is wholly irrelevant.

Considering a safe approach to terra-forming was just created and distributed to all powers conside

The Sheliak announced their operation shortly after it occurred. They could easily have dismissed the incident, and moved on. The device clearly has applications as both a weapon and a means of terraforming. We stated that we also have concerns about the applications of such a device, and believe inspection is in order.

To be honest, we believe the FKI ambassador is putting the interests of profit over the interests of safety and stability in the region. This incident happened on the border of our Turei allies, and as such, is considered by us to be the same as a detonation on our border.

Do not presume to know our motivations or reasoning, ambassador.

The Shelliak began offering excuses as soon as it became public that something happened. Indeed we can't see the logic of such a device given the fact that a safe method for terra-forming already exist and was distributed to all powers just recently as part of an international research effort.

And we do not question your motivations or reasoning, though we would point out the test was in fact closer to a Federation colony than it was to Tueri space. We simply find it unfathomably that other powers are not supportive of an effort to eliminate and fully investigate a provocative weapon that was tested in full view, be their motivations profit or security or stability.

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[Tsukiyumi]

We also agreed that this device should be inspected, and eliminated if the Sheliak Corporate is cooperative. We simply do not see the value in pushing a civilization with such a device using veiled threats and political rhetoric. If their intentions were truly hostile, the Federation colony you mentioned would not currently exist, we're sure.

[Mark]

In the darkest period of Cardassian history, we were conquers who would reduce a planets inhabitents to little more than slave labor. Even then, at our darkest, we have never developed a weapon that would eradicate an entire planet in one single blow.

[BigJKU316]

We also agreed that this device should be inspected, and eliminated if the Sheliak Corporate is cooperative. We simply do not see the value in pushing a civilization with such a device using veiled threats and political rhetoric. If their intentions were truly hostile, the Federation colony you mentioned would not currently exist, we're sure.

Hence the reason for a full investigation and isolation of the Shelliak until such time as an investigation can be completed.

Until such time as such an investigation can take place the FKI will be forced to sever diplomatic relations with the Shelliak and will be forced to wind down its business relationships with both the Shelliak and those who continue to do business with them. As we are Ferengi we will honor all of our standing contracts until they reach their conclusion.

[Tsukiyumi]

In the darkest period of Cardassian history, we were conquers who would reduce a planets inhabitents to little more than slave labor. Even then, at our darkest, we have never developed a weapon that would eradicate an entire planet in one single blow.

Neither have we, to date. However, we feel it necessary to point out the obvious fact that any of our races possess weaponry on this order in as few as two or three ships. The fact that a few Breen ships would have to fight through orbital defenses before destroying a planet's surface doesn't negate our ability to do so.

However... we do agree that some form of investigation is in order to determine several factors.

1) how many of these devices were created.

2) what was the intent of these devices?

3) why choose a system in such close proximity to other major powers? It's not like this weapon could cause a massive supernova to engulf, say, Romulus, but it still seems irresponsible.

[Mark]

In that case, the Breen seek similar answers that the ISA, and the FKI do as well.

[Deepcrush]

You stupid little Ferengi, the Klingon Empire is not fighting anyone. It is our position that this is an internal of the Shelliak. As they border only the Turei and Romulans, it should be left up to them to figure out.

[Nickswitz]

To the Breen, there were a total of somewhere about 11 of these devices created, 6 of them were used on small sized moons that became habitable within hours of use of the device. Then 2 were used on the two detonated planets, one is left for testing, and two are currently aboard our ships at the wormhole in case of a Hur'q invasion in order to detonate near them to cause serious damage to their ships. These devices can also create planets out of the ashes of another if modified slightly. This is more of the goal we were looking for, to create inhabitable planets from others that were either destroyed, or from large astroid pieces, or even from a mass of objects in a certain vicinity.

Our intentions for this device were merely for creating inhabitable planets quickly.

And we choose a system that was close to us, in order to test the devices on full sized planets, rather than moons that were merely a fifth of the size of either of the planets.

[stitch626]

The Sheliak have repeatedly stated that this is not a weapon. They are correct. It is a terraforming tool that malfunctioned. It remains a terraforming tool. Until it has been used in a tactical manner against living organisms, it is not a weapon. So stop calling it such.

[Mark]

The day this weapon will no longer be capable of destroying all life on a planet in favor of its new matrix, then Cardassia will stop calling it a weapon.

[stitch626]

Then we will begin to call your trade vessels weapons, and treat them as such as they can destroy all life on a planet just by flying into it.


As for the Sheliak and this device...
They seem to be willing to provide as much information as necessary. So we will no longer oppose an audit of their communication records. As long as this audit does not remove their security and allow other irrelevant information to leak out.