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Due to the nature of the Ferangi Civil War as a matter of internal issues, the Federation does not wish for the conflict to grow larger than it is. Therefore starting in 10 days a security cordon will go into effect around Ferangi Space. No armed vessels will be allowed in or out. This is being done strictly to keep the peace and prevent this domestic matter from bleeding out to the other areas of the map.
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Nickswitz wrote:We only provided them with 400,000 credits from the transfer, and therefore they must have had assistance from another faction somewhere in order to purchase the ships if it was over 400,000.
Then perhaps you have some explaining to do on how the Kazon got their hands on so much of your money without you know how they were spending it!
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To the Federation:

You realize that that will disallow the fleets that are coming to assist us in our internal affairs, which would thus be making you an involved party by trying to keep others uninvolved.

To the Klingons:

They did not, that is what I have been saying, our account is steady and accounted for. It means that they must have had a donation from elsewhere that they used to pay you.
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Nickswitz wrote:To the Klingons:

They did not, that is what I have been saying, our account is steady and accounted for. It means that they must have had a donation from elsewhere that they used to pay you.
Then that money was funneled through your space before it reached us. We have no proof that the money came from anywhere but the Ferengi Alliance.
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Lt. Staplic wrote:Due to the nature of the Ferangi Civil War as a matter of internal issues, the Federation does not wish for the conflict to grow larger than it is. Therefore starting in 10 days a security cordon will go into effect around Ferangi Space. No armed vessels will be allowed in or out. This is being done strictly to keep the peace and prevent this domestic matter from bleeding out to the other areas of the map.
Our fleet will be arriving sometime after that. We of the Confederacy have no current quarrel with the Federation, but we have agreed to assist the legitimate Ferengi government in this matter, and we will honor our word. We fail to see how limiting aid to the legitimate government will bring stability, and the fact remains that this is not a "civil war" but an armed takeover of a sovereign race's territory by a hostile species from another region of the galaxy.

We believe, due to the Federation's proposed actions in this matter, that an emergency conference is in order. Our fleet is on it's way; hopefully, we can resolve this matter without any unnecessary conflict.
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I am not blaming the Klingon Empire, you were merely doing business, this we understand, currently we are stating this for all to hear and recognize that these funds were not given them by the Ferengi. I am sorry for directing these comments at you when they were directed towards no one specifically.
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Nickswitz wrote:I am not blaming the Klingon Empire, you were merely doing business, this we understand, currently we are stating this for all to hear and recognize that these funds were not given them by the Ferengi. I am sorry for directing these comments at you when they were directed towards no one specifically.
These are harsh times for your kind. We accept your apology.
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We thank you for your understanding.
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The renegade faction has been declared it's own Nation, so therefore this is not a civil matter. Our intentions were made to declare war on them, if this was misunderstood, then we are sorry for the misunderstanding. But again, they are their own power, who we have declared war on to regain the planets that they took from us.

So claiming a border to stop a civil dispute from reaching out is a moot point, there is no civil dispute. It is a war between 2 entities.
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So to clarify, you have recognized the Kazon-Ferangi Alliance that recently seceded from your Govenrment as a legitimate and sovereign power and are now declaring war on them for the purposes of conquest?
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Tsukiyumi wrote:
Lt. Staplic wrote:Due to the nature of the Ferangi Civil War as a matter of internal issues, the Federation does not wish for the conflict to grow larger than it is. Therefore starting in 10 days a security cordon will go into effect around Ferangi Space. No armed vessels will be allowed in or out. This is being done strictly to keep the peace and prevent this domestic matter from bleeding out to the other areas of the map.
Our fleet will be arriving sometime after that. We of the Confederacy have no current quarrel with the Federation, but we have agreed to assist the legitimate Ferengi government in this matter, and we will honor our word. We fail to see how limiting aid to the legitimate government will bring stability, and the fact remains that this is not a "civil war" but an armed takeover of a sovereign race's territory by a hostile species from another region of the galaxy.

We believe, due to the Federation's proposed actions in this matter, that an emergency conference is in order. Our fleet is on it's way; hopefully, we can resolve this matter without any unnecessary conflict.
The Kazon/Ferengi Imperium must say it is baffled by these statements.

You reference the legitimate government as if we were not legitimate. Then you turn around and claim this is not a civil war. Which position do you wish to inhabit here. We are not known as the brightest species in the galaxy but certainly the two positions cannot be consistent with one another.

If they are the legitimate government and it is implied that we are not and this is a civil war.

If we are both legitimate governments, and the Ferengi have recognized us as such by initially stating they would take no action at all to retake planets that left the Alliance in a largely peaceful manner, then is not the Ferengi action a declaration of aggressive war on another legitimate government?

Your position would have merit if our leaving had been followed by an immediate declaration of war. Or if you had simply declared us rebels and taken immediate action. But this did not happen. We were given legitimate status and recognized by the Ferengi and now they have apprently choosen to wage war against us now that others have arrived to stiffen their spine.
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Regardless we object as well to the Federation imposing a security cordon around our territory.

We do understand your concerns and offer this pledge. Our ships will not at any point cross into your territory or that of the Cardassian Union during their operations and we will bring on no allies who allow their forces to do the same. We make this pledge without reservation and will see to it even if the cordon is put in effect.

It is our hope that you will see a pledge from the other side of equal force and thus allow both sides to look for allies on an equal playing field. We are not without our friends as well.
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Lt. Staplic wrote:So to clarify, you have recognized the Kazon-Ferangi Alliance that recently seceded from your Govenrment as a legitimate and sovereign power and are now declaring war on them for the purposes of conquest?
If you wish to see it as that then yes, yes we are.


BigJKU316 wrote: that left the Alliance in a largely peaceful manner
Are you going to claim that you did not ambush my fleet that was over the planet you were inhabiting.

And our stance changed due to overwhelming anger within the Ferengi Alliance at the Kazon's taking of planets. Because we are a Republic and needed to take immediate action, we did, and the people showed us that they were displeased, and therefore our stance was changed.
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The Kazon were invited into Ferengi space in good faith and reciprocated by arming themselves, and capturing territory. Can no one else see the crime here? We were taken to task for trying to limit the aggression of another species several years ago, and now the Federation seeks to aid these criminals? We are rather alarmed at this change in policy by the most powerful force in the region, and we are forced to question why they have chosen this course of action.
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We did indeed condemn the Kazon for their actions after taking their planet, the other Ferangi Planets appear to have opted to seperate from the FA to join with the Kazon due to their own free will. We are not offering aid to the Kazon, we were simply trying to limit the scope of the war. Now that the status of the Kazon-Ferangi Alliance has been modified, we will be removing the security cordon.
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