Sulu: The true XI hero?
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Sulu: The true XI hero?
Tongue in cheek but I think that if it wasn't for his initial incompetence at the helm, the Big E would have arrived at Vulcan at the same time as everyone else and possibly been curbstomped along with the rest in the fleet in the confusion? Perhaps it was only because she turned up last did Nero get a chance to read the registry and perhaps may not have had the opportunity otherwise....also he saved Kirk's derriere on the drill platform as well! (no Takei jokes please
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Heroes are made many ways...
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some completely by accident
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Don't forget that a succesful mission in the 23rd century must include at least one swordfight.
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Re: Sulu: The true XI hero?
thelordharry wrote:Tongue in cheek but I think that if it wasn't for his initial incompetence at the helm, the Big E would have arrived at Vulcan at the same time as everyone else and possibly been curbstomped along with the rest in the fleet in the confusion? Perhaps it was only because she turned up last did Nero get a chance to read the registry and perhaps may not have had the opportunity otherwise....also he saved Kirk's derriere on the drill platform as well! (no Takei jokes please
Good point, Sulu saved them all by messing up going into warp. I suspect though that Nero would have scanned Enterprise as they arrived and probably would have caught the registry number just the same. Sulu was very good on the platform rig fighting with Kirk that's for certain
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Hey, you can't have sci-fi without aMikey wrote:Don't forget that a succesful mission in the 23rd century must include at least one swordfight.
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I can't stand nothing dull
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer
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Well, hey, a SF franchise needs some kind of merchandise to sell to geeks.Rochey wrote:Hey, you can't have sci-fi without aMikey wrote:Don't forget that a succesful mission in the 23rd century must include at least one swordfight.lightsaberpower swordfolding katana.
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One of the lovely things about Trek XI is that just about everyone plays a vital role at one time or another.
Sulu; saved the Enterprise by being slow into warp, saved it again with handy maneuvering over Vulcan, killed BOTH the Romulans on the drill platform, saving Kirk's ass in the process.
Chekov; saved both Kirk and Sulu from dying on Vulcan, calculated a way to get close to the Narada undetected.
Uhura; fed Kirk the information to work out that the Narada was attacking Vulcan.
Scotty; beamed Kirk and Spock off the Narada.
And so on. Given that these are characters who in the original movie run were pretty much reduced to saying their stock phrases ("She won't take much more Captain!" "Aye Captain, warp speed." - Trek XI was a refreshing change, and I desperately hope they don't reduce anybody to the Mayweather-esque role of "living prop" in Trek XII.
Sulu; saved the Enterprise by being slow into warp, saved it again with handy maneuvering over Vulcan, killed BOTH the Romulans on the drill platform, saving Kirk's ass in the process.
Chekov; saved both Kirk and Sulu from dying on Vulcan, calculated a way to get close to the Narada undetected.
Uhura; fed Kirk the information to work out that the Narada was attacking Vulcan.
Scotty; beamed Kirk and Spock off the Narada.
And so on. Given that these are characters who in the original movie run were pretty much reduced to saying their stock phrases ("She won't take much more Captain!" "Aye Captain, warp speed." - Trek XI was a refreshing change, and I desperately hope they don't reduce anybody to the Mayweather-esque role of "living prop" in Trek XII.
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Not to mention that it was his trick that got him and Kirk back to the Enterprise (albeit with a bit of a push from Spock).GrahamKennedy wrote:Scotty; beamed Kirk and Spock off the Narada.
I wouldn't go that far. Sure some of the films were heavily focussed on the big three but others, particularly III and IV, were true ensemble performances. Overall the TNG films were worse for shoving everyone but Picard and Data into the background, especially since in TNG itself the focus had been much more widely spread among the senior staff than TOS.Given that these are characters who in the original movie run were pretty much reduced to saying their stock phrases ("She won't take much more Captain!" "Aye Captain, warp speed."
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It certainly varies from film to film, and Nimoy's are a high point as he seemed to genuinely care about giving every character at least one moment per movie.
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I think McCoy was a hero for giving us all a laugh in giving Kirk 'great big puffy comedy hands' on the way to Vulcan That hypospray seemed a bit more brutal than in previous Trek?
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Re: Sulu: The true XI hero?
Well something that pierces your skin with a jet of compressed gas probably won't feel great.
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As I understand, the RL ones aren't that uncomfortable at all.Tyyr wrote:Well something that pierces your skin with a jet of compressed gas probably won't feel great.
I can't stand nothing dull
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer
Re: Sulu: The true XI hero?
how do the real ones work?