I think what that was saying is that the V'Ger and it's home planet developed into the Borg.ChakatBlackstar wrote:You guys are saying that this theory is V'Ger created the Borg, right? What if the living machines were the Borg? On it's way home V'Ger improved its assimilation abilities or something.
Maybe the Q are afraid of the Borg using some of the tech they've assimilated, but maybe haven't yet had the leap of imagination to use in the non logical way that would be required to be most lethal to all life in the galaxy that assimilation of humanity might provide or through pressure from the federation they would discover through adversity.Jim wrote:I think what that was saying is that the V'Ger and it's home planet developed into the Borg.ChakatBlackstar wrote:You guys are saying that this theory is V'Ger created the Borg, right? What if the living machines were the Borg? On it's way home V'Ger improved its assimilation abilities or something.
On a side note, has anyone here discussed why Q said "We have told you 'Do NOT antagonize the Borg!!!'" or whatever the exact quote was?
Huh?First off, teaos and his tch upgrade rant in a bit on the 'get real' side of things. Maybe you should think rather then just download your thoughts on it.
Q said it in a condescending, vaguely patronising manner, like one might warn his child not to upset or provoke the neighbours' dog, which thus illustrates the cosmic might of the Q continuum and how the galactic menace of the borg collective is simply a neighbours' pooch, to the Q.....Jim wrote:
On a side note, has anyone here discussed why Q said "We have told you 'Do NOT provoke the Borg!'" or whatever the exact quote was?
See, I took it quite the other way around. I took it as a legitimate thing. "Play all you want, but don't wake the sleeping dragon" Like the Q actually feel that if the Borg turned their attention to the Q, that the Q would be in legit trouble.Granitehewer wrote:Q said it in a condescending, vaguely patronising manner, like one might warn his child not to upset or provoke the neighbours' dog, which thus illustrates the cosmic might of the Q continuum and how the galactic menace of the borg collective is simply a neighbours' pooch, to the Q.....Jim wrote:
On a side note, has anyone here discussed why Q said "We have told you 'Do NOT provoke the Borg!'" or whatever the exact quote was?
It doesn't really - the franchise ST: Voyager ruined the Borg by itself. However, there's really no evidence to support the V'ger-Borg link, and there is evidence against it. It contradicts established timing, as perJim wrote:I fail to see how saying the Borg evolved from V'Ger is any way ruins the Borg or V'Ger.
Captain Seafort wrote:The timeline's all wrong - the Borg have been around for centuries, while V'Ger didn't exist until the late 20th/early 21st century.
I was not trying to say that I felt that that is how they did develop, I just like the idea.Mikey wrote:It doesn't really - the franchise ST: Voyager ruined the Borg by itself. However, there's really no evidence to support the V'ger-Borg link, and there is evidence against it. It contradicts established timing, as perJim wrote:I fail to see how saying the Borg evolved from V'Ger is any way ruins the Borg or V'Ger.Captain Seafort wrote:The timeline's all wrong - the Borg have been around for centuries, while V'Ger didn't exist until the late 20th/early 21st century.
I seem to remember both me and Rochey complaining about the stupidity of the "run at gun-wielding enemy with a sword" tactic belovedof TNG+ Klingons on numerous occassions. They took a comment from Kor about the glory of war and turned the entire species into Space Vikings.Teaos wrote:Hey I dont even think Voyager ruined the Borg. They just took them in a new direction just like TNG did with the Klingons yet I see no one b*tching about that.
