Script review

[Graham Kennedy]

Review of the script, focusing on the things dropped from the movie..

http://www.tnmc.org/The-Blog/star-trek- ... issed.html

[Vic]

I would have liked to see the Klingon sub-plot, just to see what they did to the Klingons if nothing else.

[Tsukiyumi]

Interesting.

Though, how would the Klingons have cloaking devices in the 2230's?

[Vic]

Re-set universe, could be any reason.

[Tsukiyumi]

The Narada attacking the Kelvin was the reset. There's no reason the Klingon ships should have cloaks before that.

[Nickswitz]

Um... didn't they have cloak in ENT?

[Aaron]

Um... didn't they have cloak in ENT?

The Romulan's did and so did the race that raped Trip.

[Nickswitz]

Maybe they stole it between then and Kelvin...

[Captain Seafort]

The Narada attacking the Kelvin was the reset. There's no reason the Klingon ships should have cloaks before that.

There are far to many differences between the Prime universe and the Abramsverse for the Narada to be the PoD - the Kelvin's crew wearing the Starfleet delta, the style of the bridge, with the window rather than a viewscreen (which is consistent between the Kelvin and the neo-E), and above all the sheer size of the neo-E. That isn't a design change thanks to a new and powerful enemy - it's indicative of a far stronger more advanced engineering base than existed in the Prime universe.

[Tsukiyumi]

Yeah, I guess you're right. I suppose Enterprise (the show) would be the defining change, then.

[Captain Seafort]

Or even before that. This isn't a case of "something specific happened differently, therefore x,y and z" - it's a completely different universe, with no ties whatsoever to the one the rest of the series are set in.

[Tsukiyumi]

Too bad the writers didn't say that instead of "an alternate universe created by Nero going back in time".

[Captain Seafort]

An alternate universe was created by Nero's introduction. It just didn't diverge from the one we're used to. Besides which, while I don't think we're been given an official canon policy for neo-Trek yet, I'd say that what we see on screen trumps all else.

[Tsukiyumi]

Okay, conceded. It sure didn't seem like the "prime timeline", did it?

Then again, with all the time travel in 'Trek, they left the TOS pilot timeline behind a few series ago.

[Lazar]

A bit of a tangent, but considering all the retconning and timeline discrepancies in ST, I think it would have been awesome if they had established that the World War III of the 2050s was the same thing as the Eugenics Wars, and that the Eastern Coalition was the bloc of Asian and Middle Eastern nations led by Khan. It could have really helped tie the franchise together.