Or to look at it from a different perspective, imagine that you aren't observing the box from outside, but rather that you are the cat.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The cat thing never made sense to me. Either it's dead or it's not.ot observing it won't make it any less ambiguous. It's just a lack of knowledge.
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"There was also a large horse in the room, taking up most of it."
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Then you're either a living cat or a dead cat. Ooh, first-person perspective!
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I think that's exactly what the "Schrodinger's Cat" paradox is meant to point out.
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Wow... I feel like a schmuck. There's a whole welcome thread for me, and I only just noticed. *Coughs, bows* Thank ye, all... it's good to be here.
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Welcome to the board. Nice hat.
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And he appears, now we know he is alive and not dead.
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Nothing it will never come. Death before defeat. I don’t bend or break. I end, if I meet a foe capable of it. Victory is in forcing the opponent to back down. I do not. There is no defeat.
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Or is he?Teaos wrote:And he appears, now we know he is alive and not dead.
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The whole point of the thought experiment is that it actually isn't just a lack of knowledge. You'd expect it to be, because that's how the macro world works, but on a quantum level something really IS in both states at the same time. The SC is meant to show that the quantum world works really strangely and differently to what we expect.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The cat thing never made sense to me. Either it's dead or it's not.ot observing it won't make it any less ambiguous. It's just a lack of knowledge.
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Aye, it's one of those bizzare things that shouldn't make sense, but does.
Anyway, welcome.
Anyway, welcome.
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Well, I've been observed, and I appear to be interactive... or have I been observed? I suppose that all that's really been observed are my effects in the form of my posts, so one can infer my existence and, I suppose, my life from them, but I haven't been observed directly by anyone on the board. Huh... am I alive?Tsukiyumi wrote:Or is he?Teaos wrote:And he appears, now we know he is alive and not dead.
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You're learning quickly! Now, you just need to remember never to stay on topic for more than 5 posts.Schrodinger's Hat wrote:
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Yep, that's... Say, how's the weather been for y'all lately? It's been a gorgeous weekend here, though this abrupt change after the storm of last weekend might have led to my current cold.Lazar wrote:You're learning quickly! Now, you just need to remember never to stay on topic for more than 5 posts.Schrodinger's Hat wrote:
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Captain Picard's Hair wrote:Yep, that's... Say, how's the weather been for y'all lately? It's been a gorgeous weekend here, though this abrupt change after the storm of last weekend might have led to my current cold.Lazar wrote:You're learning quickly! Now, you just need to remember never to stay on topic for more than 5 posts.Schrodinger's Hat wrote:
Its been great weather rescently but last night we got some hail.
How many Minbari does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
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GrahamKennedy wrote:The whole point of the thought experiment is that it actually isn't just a lack of knowledge. You'd expect it to be, because that's how the macro world works, but on a quantum level something really IS in both states at the same time. The SC is meant to show that the quantum world works really strangely and differently to what we expect.RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The cat thing never made sense to me. Either it's dead or it's not.ot observing it won't make it any less ambiguous. It's just a lack of knowledge.
I... guess. *Shrugs* I guess I'll always be a macro kind of a guy. The cat can either be alive or dead, but not both. Unless there's a gateway to a parallel dimension in there.
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What if it's a zombie cat?RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:...The cat can either be alive or dead, but not both...
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