Mark wrote:I see. Makes sense why this scottish guy I met a few times got all ticked off when somebody asked him if he was from "England".
That's the favourite method for visiting Yanks to put their foot in it. That and indictating that they want two beers.
More seriously, I'd say that calling the wrong Scot (in the East End of Glasgow, for example) "English" is only slightly more healthy than walking up the Falls Road singing "Paras 13, Bogside nil".
Only two things are infinite - the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe: Albert Einstein.
Lot's of people are like that I've noticed. I had a Puerto Rician friend who after a drink or two would start swining if somebody suggestd that he was a Mexican.
I kind of like the way it's done in Hawaii. People come right up to you and ask "what are you?". That kind of question is rather taboo on the mainland, but out here a standard and fair conversation opener.
Imagine my surprise when I discovered some people out here didn't know that there were more than one type of "white" person.
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
Feels like Nemesis happening all over again. We see the trailer, people get all hyped-up, the film turns out to be a major let-down to many of the same people who thought it would be great.
Please note: I did NOT say it turned out to be major let-down to EVERYONE. Just to many.
Of course, this one really IS set in an alternate Universe, so I guess eliminates one area of grief caused by Nemesis.
"What has been done has been done and cannot be undone."--Ruth, All the Weyrs of Pern
"Dragons can't change who they are, and who would want them to? Dragons are powerful, amazing creatures."--Hiccup, Dragons: Riders of Berk
Holy crap this looks pretty awesome. It has a sense of scale and grandeur to it that I've rarely glimpsed in a Trek movie. Like, we can argue all day long about whether ships are better built in space, but just tell me this isn't f**kin cool /quote]
I don't know guys, we've not seen anything like this in Trek before. It just feels brand new but also vaguely familiar. However, although the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, I have this mental image of Elim Garak patting the Star Trek Franchise on the back and, with that wide-eyed mischievious smile, saying "There is hope for you yet"....
“To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and
the affection of children...to leave the world a better place...to
know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is
to have succeeded.”
“To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and
the affection of children...to leave the world a better place...to
know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. This is
to have succeeded.”
Varthikes wrote:Feels like Nemesis happening all over again. We see the trailer, people get all hyped-up, the film turns out to be a major let-down to many of the same people who thought it would be great.
Please note: I did NOT say it turned out to be major let-down to EVERYONE. Just to many.
Of course, this one really IS set in an alternate Universe, so I guess eliminates one area of grief caused by Nemesis.
Let's hope this is nothing like Nemesis! Boo Nemesis! I totally understand your skepticism, man. Here's hoping it's good pudding.
"I have nothing to say, I am saying it, and that is poetry."
John Cage
I have a sudden horrible feeling that when they launch the E-nil from Ground to space they are going to do a horribly long scene ala - TMP.
What does defeat mean to you?
Nothing it will never come. Death before defeat. I don’t bend or break. I end, if I meet a foe capable of it. Victory is in forcing the opponent to back down. I do not. There is no defeat.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
Teaos wrote:I have a sudden horrible feeling that when they launch the E-nil from Ground to space they are going to do a horribly long scene ala - TMP.
Hey I liked that seen!
"All this has happened before --"
"But it doesn't have to happen again. Not if we make up our minds to change. Take a different path. Right here, right now."
GrahamKennedy wrote:Me too. I admit TMP is a slow movie, but the Enterprise deserved her beautiful entrance.
It had been what? Ten years since she was last on screen? I'm with you two; I like that part.
I doubt they'll spend that much time on it in this movie - it's only two hours long.
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
Mark wrote:But a slow two minute sceen wouldn't take up THAT much time, and would be sooooo worth it.
That's probably more like what will actually happen. I doubt they'll have a ridculously long ship reveal slow the pace of the movie.
There is only one way of avoiding the war – that is the overthrow of this society. However, as we are too weak for this task, the war is inevitable. -L. Trotsky, 1939
They'll probably justify the beauty shots of the ship by having some exposition go off at the same time.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
Well they seem to have Kirk go off to Starfleet on his motorbike and he stops and has a long meaningful look at the ship being built, in the pic I posted. I can just picture that, the tortured young man taking in the sight as soulful music plays...
I'm betting that the launch is going to hark as much as possible to the Apollo missions. I can see either the impulse engines or some sort of JATO rockets firing mightily... smoke billowing... all those support gantries dropping away as the ship begins to climb, so slowly at first... pans across the hull as it accelerates away, faster and faster, punching through the clouds, heading for space.
That's how I would do it, if it were me. A starship birthed in smoke and flame!
Give a man a fire, and you keep him warm for a day. SET a man on fire, and you will keep him warm for the rest of his life...
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