Picards mistakes

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:17 am

Funny thing is all the die hard TOS fans hated it.

I think they felt like the show was somehow taking a potshot at their beloved Spock. I don't think so at all, but...

Post by **Teaos** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:29 am

Maybe it was but that hardly matters. The way Vulcans have always been portrayed has been uterly stupid.

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:16 am

I agree with you - I'm just trying to figure out why their portrayal in Enterprise has irked some die-hard TOS-ers.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:28 am

Mikey wrote:I agree with you - I'm just trying to figure out why their portrayal in Enterprise has irked some die-hard TOS-ers.

I'm not sure, either. I always felt an underlying arrogance in most Vulcans. T'pau, Stonn, T'pring, Solok, Tuvok...

Heck, Spock was pretty danged haughty too on occasion.

JudgeKing · Post by **JudgeKing** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:31 am

Picard's biggest failing: hipocrisy. He makes all sorts of speeched about the Prime Directive, yet he violates it regularly.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:01 pm

Pfft, I aplaude him for that. Some of the things the Prime Directive says are completely stupid and disgracefull to anyone with a sense of morals.

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:49 pm

I agree with Rochey. At least, unlike Kirk, Picard's decisions to skirt the Prime Directive were based on a clear system of ethics - rather than arbitrary decisions of convenience.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:15 pm

Picard > all other captains.

He does not make mistakes!

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:20 pm

Picard > all other captains.

Close:
Kirk > Picard > all others

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:25 pm

Kirk>Jellico>Picard>all others>Janeway

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:25 pm

Nah. Kirk is of course cooler, but Picard is better in all other aspects.

On the other hand, coolness is the most important factor in how good a Starfleet Captain is.

Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:27 pm

I hate to admit it, but Kirk is the only one who had a song written about him; by the great third-wave band, the Scofflaws.

Monroe · Post by **Monroe** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:55 pm

Picard's got some songs in the humor section of the forums.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:57 pm

Thorin wrote:Picard > all other captains.

He does not make mistakes!

I'll forgive your ignorance as your too young to have been alive when Kirk was the one and only Captain. Personally I think its Kirk-Picard-Sisko-Janeway-Archer.

RK_Striker_JK_5 · Post by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:19 pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
Thorin wrote:Picard > all other captains.

He does not make mistakes!
I'll forgive your ignorance as your too young to have been alive when Kirk was the one and only Captain. Personally I think its Kirk-Picard-Sisko-Janeway-Archer.

I'd switch Archer and Janeway, myself. Kirk can also outfight Picard and has the devil's luck about him.

Plus he taught the Klingons the phrase 'surrender with honor'.