Ship of the week: Negh’Var

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:17 pm

I've seen their "mentality" change when it serves them. I think they could change up real quick with that first capt that brags about the honor of the kill that he just scored being an enemy battleship!

Post by **Mikey** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:20 pm

I agree with Deepcrush. If a BHS (Big Honking Ship) like that were so contrary to the Klingon mentality, why would it be the foucs of the Empire's war machine as the Chancellor's flagship?

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:22 pm

Klingons like getting to blast people to pieces and they don't like to share, this ship gives them that ablity. They can take out all but the most powerful ship in the quad and they can do it one on one! Thats a klingon mentality for you.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:00 pm

I don't think we'll see many Negh'vars until they have an even bigger ship for Gowron to command. He just seems like that kind of guy...

Post by **Teaos** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:08 pm

Gowron is dead. And Martok the new leader prefers small ships.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:16 pm

Martok may be a small-unit commander by inclination, but he's got enough sense and experience to know that there are times when you need the sheer brute force of a Negh'var.

Post by **Teaos** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:18 pm

I didnt say he wouldnt use them in a fleet. Just that he doesnt use them personally and would have no need to make a super sized one to show off like Regent Worf did.

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:52 pm

Teaos wrote:Gowron is dead. And Martok the new leader prefers small ships.

Whoops. I knew that, but I forget, I haven't watched DS9 all the way through.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:34 am

Behind the times much!

Jordanis · Post by **Jordanis** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:36 am

Deepcrush wrote:Behind the times much!

Didn't catch the initial run(was six when it started...), keep trying to find a good episode guide that will tell me what episodes are both bad and safe to skip in terms of important happenings.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:23 pm

Why use a claw hammer when you can use a 10lb sledge?

Post by **Teaos** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:05 pm

Cause it would be slow and bulky and inacurate. I'd rather something smaller that you can really rip into someone with.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:58 am

But you still need the big guns to break up tough targets. Take an example from the WW2 seige of Toulon - a US cruiser was set the task of engaging a fort that was causing problems for the attack. It failed - the 6" shells were "bouncing off like tennis balls". Enter HMS Ramillies, and a couple of 15" salvos flattened the offending fort. That's why raw firepower is so important.

Post by **Teaos** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:04 am

Oh I totallt agree that you will always need some big guns,

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:08 am

Which is why I still believe the US military is off its rocker to not design at least a 21st century battlecruiser, something fast, with a lot of cruise missles and retaining at least the 16" guns from the Iowa-class.

Oh, I know the reasoning: the threat has shifted to terrorists, not massive enemy militaries, but the future could just as easily show the winds shift back, and we'll be caught with our pants down on a bunch of outdated crapships. In the early nineties, "experts" proclaimed the MBT to be obsolete, but they've proven quite effective in the 21st century regardless.