The Borg.....Better or Worse

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Captain Seafort wrote:
Rochey wrote:Wasn't Picard the first human they assimilated?
Not by a long shot - the Hansons were assimilated at least a decade earlier.
Thanks - you seem to have been answering my question at the very moment I was asking it. I was right, then. :)
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You'd think there'd be a few humans even between the Hansens/Picard. Such as the colony, the S.S. Lalo, etc.
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Well, we KNOW that somewhere between season 4 of TNG and Season 6 they assimilated someone with that transwarp corridor tech. So, it's not a long shot to believe that they enhanced their assimilation abilities.
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kostmayer wrote:And how come it took so long to assimilate Picard, yet later on they could assimilate you in minutes using nannites?
Remember, they wanted to "convince" Picard to "voluntarily" join the collective. It may have been more a psychological process than anything.
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me,myself and I wrote:Remember, they wanted to "convince" Picard to "voluntarily" join the collective. It may have been more a psychological process than anything.
Boy, I wish I'd thought of something like that. :P
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Mikey wrote:
me,myself and I wrote:Remember, they wanted to "convince" Picard to "voluntarily" join the collective. It may have been more a psychological process than anything.
Boy, I wish I'd thought of something like that. :P
Did I repeat something you said? If so, my apologies.
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kostmayer wrote:I still reckon in First Contact that they could have just sent Data and Worf down there alone to Die Hard the buggers.

And how come it took so long to assimilate Picard, yet later on they could assimilate you in minutes using nannites?
the nanites didn't do all the work, IIRC. I remember a shot of the partially-assimilated crewmembers being herded down for additional components to be installed.
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I think the nanites did the initial work.........but the main cybernetic components are added later (i.e. Lt. Hawk)
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Mark wrote:I think the nanites did the initial work.........but the main cybernetic components are added later (i.e. Lt. Hawk)
Yeah. Makes the new drones docile and begins the initial stuff, but surgery's needed for the full assimilation.
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Rochey wrote:Wasn't Picard the first human they assimilated? They'd probably take their time if that was the case, so they didn't accidently kill him.
Nope they had assimilated the Hansens and a few E-D crew in the first encounter.
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Yes, as several others have pointed out. :P
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I know.

Its just fun pointing out that your wrong. :P
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Its just fun pointing out that your wrong.
And I'm having fun pointing out that you're wrong. :P
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Maybe I should just pretend New Zealand has its own version of English like the Americans do. That would solve a lot of my problems...
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