Dominion war machine
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As cheesy as that sounds it makes you think, though in reality I suspect you would be better off with a ship equipped with low observability or cloak technology and transporters...
For any serious operation though I think I would rely more on Armored Shuttles than even the Transporter, it has a place of course but it is easy to knock out.
For any serious operation though I think I would rely more on Armored Shuttles than even the Transporter, it has a place of course but it is easy to knock out.
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Combat drop pods aren't really a new thing for SciFi. Halo, Battletech and Warhammer 40k all make use of the idea.
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But naturally the pacifistic federation has forgotton how to kick a$$ it seems
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They lost Kirk and went downhill from there.
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Where's the capital of Earth in the 24th century again?
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Never mind all that new stuff - Starship Troopers had them back in the 50s.Deepcrush wrote:Combat drop pods aren't really a new thing for SciFi. Halo, Battletech and Warhammer 40k all make use of the idea.
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Aye, the idea of drop pods has been around for ages.
I wouldn't. Too vulnerable to the thousand and one ways you can jam transporters. Stick with shuttles and your chances of getting the troops on the ground got a lot better. Also, arm the shuttle and it can stick around to support the troops from the air.As cheesy as that sounds it makes you think, though in reality I suspect you would be better off with a ship equipped with low observability or cloak technology and transporters...
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What about landers for ground vehicles too?Rochey wrote:Aye, the idea of drop pods has been around for ages.
I wouldn't. Too vulnerable to the thousand and one ways you can jam transporters. Stick with shuttles and your chances of getting the troops on the ground got a lot better. Also, arm the shuttle and it can stick around to support the troops from the air.As cheesy as that sounds it makes you think, though in reality I suspect you would be better off with a ship equipped with low observability or cloak technology and transporters...
Starfleet Army should consist of highly trained ground troops SPECIALIZED in ground fighting. Not armed with the standard phaser rifle either, either one that's set on wide beam all the time, or a pulse phaser for rapid fire. Plus, disruptor/phaser resistant body armor to increase survivability.
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To me, the Cardies were one of the few races with some common sense in their design and tactics.
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Indeed, I forgot about them. My fav has to be the ones from Battletech. A dropship large enough to fit a whole divison on board.Captain Seafort wrote:Never mind all that new stuff - Starship Troopers had them back in the 50s.Deepcrush wrote:Combat drop pods aren't really a new thing for SciFi. Halo, Battletech and Warhammer 40k all make use of the idea.
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That too.What about landers for ground vehicles too?
I wouldn't have phasers set for wide beam all the time. What if there are civilians in the area? What if there are allied troops near the enemies' position? What if you're in a situation where accuracy is needed? Not to mention the fact that we've never seen any weapon on wide beam that wasn't on a stun setting, we don't know if the phaser has enough power to do a wide beam kill. And even if it did, it'd eat through the ammo very quickly.Starfleet Army should consist of highly trained ground troops SPECIALIZED in ground fighting. Not armed with the standard phaser rifle either, either one that's set on wide beam all the time, or a pulse phaser for rapid fire. Plus, disruptor/phaser resistant body armor to increase survivability.
Agreed on all the rest, though.
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I agree with you and said the same thing above;Rochey wrote:Aye, the idea of drop pods has been around for ages.
I wouldn't. Too vulnerable to the thousand and one ways you can jam transporters. Stick with shuttles and your chances of getting the troops on the ground got a lot better. Also, arm the shuttle and it can stick around to support the troops from the air.As cheesy as that sounds it makes you think, though in reality I suspect you would be better off with a ship equipped with low observability or cloak technology and transporters...
For any serious operation though I think I would rely more on Armored Shuttles than even the Transporter, it has a place of course but it is easy to knock out.
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Granted we've never SEEN it, but Tuvok DID mention that he had his phaser set to kill and on wide beam (when he was "possessed" by the alien and Chakotay was a "spirit"). That kind of leads one to believe that you COULD do it.Not to mention the fact that we've never seen any weapon on wide beam that wasn't on a stun setting, we don't know if the phaser has enough power to do a wide beam kill. And even if it did, it'd eat through the ammo very quickly.
They say that in the Army,
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.
the women are mighty fine.
They look like Phyllis Diller,
and walk like Frankenstein.